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CodeXJ
February 26th, 2012, 03:24 AM
Let me start by saying: What is going on with this insane world!?

My generation is so blindly stupid it's unbelievable! Generation Y is soconcerned with the "me" factor that they are blindly entering a worldchanging the fabric of its foundation. They want works to accommodate them,which is actually happening, but that doesn't matter because we don't believein holding down a career for 30 years, we have new interest and change jobsfrequently. We always want everything for ourselves. We wan the latesttechnology, the latest fashion, the latest everything. We don't care about theold because we want the new. It's a sad realism! Generation Y is becoming an"I don't care about having a husband, I don't care about having wife, Idon't care about having a marriage, I don't care about anyone else but myself.Marriage rates have been declining. Women don't want to marry men who have alower education then themselves or a lower paying job. They don't care what theman is like in personality, they just want him to be on par. I tried lookingfor scholarships for my next semester, and I could only find two; yes two. Formy GPA, and my place of employment. Then I realized something. (To no offense,because I’m sure there may be some since I'm a white male talking about thisand I'm the bad person in society’s views.) If I was a woman, and in a minoritygroup I would have all the scholarships in the world. If I was just a woman Iwould have more scholarships! I'm all for empowering woman, and dowholeheartedly believe that they should have a rightful place in the workenvironment and have a chance at a successful life, but at what cost for men?White males are now the bad guys, with lack of support! Most elementary schoolteachers are all women, boys have no one to relate to. Women can relate tolittle girls easier then little boys. All you’re doing is putting boys down forwhat? Being boys? Why can't we have equality in our society? I have gotten alot of bad looks from people around because of the way I talk. I don't talklike how I'm "supposed" to as a white male. I'm so tired of anythingwe say being bad. We are the villains in almost everything now. T.V. shows portraymen as idiots, commercials show men as idiots, anything a male says that is notfor the women is idiotic. I understand the concept of women shouldn't bedependent on men and am an individual themselves, but really how many T.V.shows currently on T.V. portray women as idiots? All this society is doing isputting men down just for being men! There was an article once that said"Are men obsolete?" I read that article which describes what I beentalking about, and to the end point of this. I'm tired of seeing articles likethis. Here, for the ladies, let's go back down right before the 1920's. Womendid not have jobs, did not have a good chance at education, and the men were thehousehold. Yes, this is not a very good way of seeing it, correct? I have threestatements. First, did you see newspapers saying "Are women obsoletebecause all they do is clean and look pretty?" NO!! Second, if were supposedto learn from our past, then why are we trying to reverse rolls? Third, why dopeople have to fight a battle that's not even theirs? I don't go around bashingwomen all day for the hell of it!

People are lacking a great deal of commitment! All we care about anymore isourselves. You know, to all those people out there who are very much in loveand have a very successful marriage I commend you!! That is true advancement! Ihave my girlfriend right now of 4 years! Soon to be engaged to her. I have 3more years of college then her, and she wants to drop out to pursue a newfield, and I'm going to complete my bachelor's. (Funny thing about bachelor's.)If I get a bachelor's, because I'm not a woman, I become a statistic.) Anyways,I do not condone her or call her stupid, or think she is stupid because shedoesn't want to get a bachelor's and whatever she wants to do I'll support her,as she does for me. Why that is all these empowered women can't seem to takethat to heart? All they want is the next successful man, and anyone lower isjust an imbecile. We should be moving for advancement! We need equality! I donot care if you’re a man, woman, or in-between (Don't comment to that). I wantus to all be equal and love each other all equally. That is too much to askfor. We gotten to the point where the next release of the"I-something" is more important. In such a hugely connected worldthat we live in it's a sad way of living that people cannot seem to livetogether. I ask a very serious question? To women, what are you trying toachieve? To men, why do you not want to achieve more?

Statistically, men are getting less opportunities then women now. If you Googlearound between the work force of women and men you will see things like."Men losing more jobs to women." "Men, lagging behind women in jobs."Men, lagging behind in education." Though, you will never find anything of"Men in this area have made a comeback to jobs available." But, youwill see articles like "Women gaining higher paying jobs in the workforce." Followed by articles like, "Women have gotten higher payingjobs, but in this particular location women still haven't gotten that!"then followed by how this is unfair and they need to change it. I guess whenone type of people dominates something in the past; it's today's people to fighta battle already years behind? So just because I was born a white-male intoday's time I have to endure this stupid criticism? Why do women always getthe kids by default? Why can't I have a scholarship for (men-only) Oh wait, Ican't because that would make me to special, everyone else needs their ownscholarships. See how many times we can put the white-male down before everyoneelse can get more. This is a rant, and may be bias, though I do try to keep itunbiased in very key portions of what I'm talking about; the overall point I'mtrying to make: why can't men, women, race, ethnicity, and everything else allbe equal? If women are getting more degrees then men, then so be it!! Educationisn't always everything especially when you’re so delusional blind by your own-self-worththat you care little about your fellow people. Feminists are also trying to getword to become gender-neutral. This is fine by me. I just find it ironic thatthey are trying to change HISTORY to HESTORY which turns it to a feminine baseword. That's so gender-neutral!? Maybe I should start a group for"malism" which combat idiot advertisement's that put men down, andcourts always deciding women get the kids by default(in most cases). To adownright point for my own opinion: Why the hell do I have to live in a societythat is so idiotic! Things like "Women who now have higher degrees re notmarrying men who have lower education." Now I can truly see theirself-worth is viewed. It's all about girl-power!! Until two girls get in a cat fightand all hell breaks loose. (I bet some people after reading that will discreditwhat I'm saying because I just put women down in a derogatory sense, but thatjust proves my point of me stating earlier than men are idiotic in T.V. showsand commercials will not be viewed as diabolical cuss were men. Here, to makethe score even. "Why do men have to play video games like little boys allday until they are in their 20's, can't you man up?"

There are so many views on this that I would love to hear from anyoneinterested in posting! To be fair, in all that I've said about women I havestill seen women put down women for just being woman. One day at work a womanasked another woman a football question to which that woman answered correctly.The woman who asked turned back to that woman and said. "How do you know, you’rejust a women!" I was very shocked. For men, I have seen men rise to theoccasion in the ever looming society we face to become a single non-marriedleader in the work force even after an uneven support.

In my personal opinion, save the most advanced jobs for the educationseekers and give them good pay, and let everything else work for anybody thatcan handle the job. Working in the retail business in an automotive shop atwal*mart you meet interesting people. I had a lady come in once who had amaster's degree in sociology. This was very cool! The sad part is, she didn'tknow what a spark plug was, or where oil went in her car.... Equally, I had aman come in who had a bachelor's in business and he didn't know what a sparkplug was, but he did know where oil went, yay... to my point is, your vehiclegets you from point a to point b for a lot of people. You could be the mostdamned educated person in this world, doesn't mean you know how to change youroil!! That's the pitiful fact were basing society on. Work should be based onexperience and being able to learn quickly and do your job not because you havea piece of paper. I like living my ordinary life as a technician. You know why?I like to have money to have a little fun, and at least live on my own. I don'tcare about being a doctor and trying to become a neurosurgeon. Chance are I'mahave to work on your car because you don't know how...If women are basingeducational advancement's on living alone, trying to raise a child much less aboy alone, and care only about money your going to reach your prime and wonderwhy your life is so lonely. Way to go! People are mammals. We are here to loveand support each other and survive together, not to selflessly live thinkingyour perfect. You know, if men become obsolete so will women in a matter oftime. Go ahead and replicate sperm. I mean, I'm sure we have the technology todo it by now! Then one day that technology will fail and then how will you reproduce?You can't thus you kill yourselves off and poof no more people! Same goes to ifwomen become obsolete. In technology they are actually getting to the pointwhere they can incubate and grow a child without the use of a woman! W00t, notso special now anymore right? Wrong, because same scenario. Technologycollapses. No one can reproduce, poof humans gone! I think we will get to thatpoint, and in a selfish manner I hope I have lived a thorough and long life anddied before this happens. Sometimes I wonder if I should have a kid...because Iwould want to raise that kid to meet his/her top potential! Sadly, I do notwant that child to grow up in a society so ignorant that we have to continue toput each other down!

Java
February 26th, 2012, 07:09 AM
Late night ranting, one of my favorite activities!! :thumb: I read once where a tomb in one of the pyramids has a message carved into the stone, warning the young generation about their changing ways; how they had forgotten the past and had lost all respect for the elders and customs of their society, how kids just wanted things without wanting to work for them. That was sometime around the year 3 or so, it's been going on forever. We're all just a bunch of fleas arguing about the best way to bite the dog.

mattzj98
February 26th, 2012, 07:56 AM
People are lacking a great deal of commitment! All we care about anymore isourselves. You know, to all those people out there who are very much in loveand have a very successful marriage I commend you!!X2!


Why can't I have a scholarship for (men-only) Oh wait, Ican't because that would make me to special, everyone else needs their ownscholarships.

If you were a white male, but Jewish and g a y, you wold find plenty. At Creek, they had us look through scholarships and find and apply for them.. THERE WASNT A SINGLE ONE FOR A STRAIGHT WHITE MALE who was NOT in poverty and NOT Jewish. Yeah, I have to pay for my school. Can't wait to tell my dad to dish out 50k a semester at DU so I can continue my law degree. Either that or i'll have to go g a y or join a minority group and change my skin color. I don't see that happening





Let me start by saying: What is going on with this insane world!?
Dude, they don't teach common sense in college, trust me, I know.

[QUOTE=CodeXJ;187976]No one can reproduce, poof humans gone! I go reproduce! lol

BTW Why the hell does the forum now censor G A Y as if it was a bad word??????????????? (had to put spaces in between, otherwise its just ***

Java
February 26th, 2012, 08:06 AM
If you were a white male, but Jewish and g a y, you wold find plenty. At Creek, they had us look through scholarships and find and apply for them.. THERE WASNT A SINGLE ONE FOR A STRAIGHT WHITE MALE who was NOT in poverty and NOT Jewish. Yeah, I have to pay for my school. Can't wait to tell my dad to dish out 50k a semester at DU so I can continue my law degree. Either that or i'll have to go g a y or join a minority group and change my skin color. I don't see that happening

Jewish? ***? Really? Can you post a pic of any application for anything that has a box for "Jewish"? or "***"?

mattzj98
February 26th, 2012, 08:12 AM
there were plenty.

JEWISH:
Jewish Community Center (JCC) North American Graduate Scholarship
JVS Scholarship Program
Jewish Family and Children's Services Scholarships
Jewish Federation of Greater Pittsburgh Central Scholarship
JSSA Educational Scholarship Fund for Undergraduates
Jewish Vocational Service Academic Scholarship Program
David and Maryla Korn Family Scholarship Fund for the Charles E. Smith Jewish Day School and/or Jewish Primary Day School
Rhea Sourifman Caplin Memorial Scholarship Fund
JCS Newhoff Scholarship for a Jewish Student with a Diagnosed Learning Disability
Morris J. and Betty Kaplun Foundation Essay Contest


G A Y:
SOLGA Kenneth W. Payne Student Prize Competition
Deaf Queer Youth Scholarship
Gamma Mu Foundation Scholarships
Lee Dubin Scholarsihp Fund
Jonathan Lax Scholarship Fund for *** Men (Philadelphia, PA)
PFLAG National GLBT Scholarship Program

THERE ARE ACTUALLY TOO MANY TO LIST!

Java
February 26th, 2012, 08:22 AM
There are scholarships for all sorts of things, not just Jewish and ***. My wife is Jewish, she got no assistance from anyone, not even her Daddy, and graduated with top honors. There are many many more for good grades and athletic achievement, maybe you could go one of those routes. Is there a box on any application that is available to the general public that has either choice on it? Do you have any idea how illegal that would be?

mattzj98
February 26th, 2012, 08:26 AM
I'm not saying it's good or bad, all I'm saying is that there ARE in fact scholarships that could pay for your school because you're *** or lesbian, there are scholarships for being a minority or of certain religion. There wasn't a single one for just simply being a white striaght male. That's all I'm saying. Of course you can get one for working hard and getting good grades, in fact, I kind of use one like that to pay for my books..

Chris
February 26th, 2012, 10:10 AM
I guess I need to comment on Cody's comments to stop the scholarship hijack but not w/o commenting that the scholarships mentioned were created by people wanting to give assistance to a specific group. In other words GLBT scholarships were created by GLBT individuals or groups, scholarships for Jews by Jewish organizations, black scholarships created by blacks, etc. ******** about not being able to find one as a white male is an old argument that is missing the fact that white males have always been the ones with an advantage in our culture. Look at historic statistics and white men have always had higher college attendance, salaries, longevity, better medical care, better jobs, opportunities, etc. Thus the need for scholarships for other groups.

The main rant is against people of your own age feeling entitled and that's really nothing new. Google "Plato children quotes" and you'll see the feeling of the young are self-centered goes back a long way. What I see as the main rant is simply the pendulum swinging back and forth as it always will. As the spouse of a woman who was referred to as a "feminist" by co-workers I'm familiar with the arguments and bias against women.

There are plenty of people that think the white male is an endangered species and feel threatened, of course they are all white males. Get to know people in different situations. Maybe a single mother trying to feed her kids, a black man trying to climb the corporate ladder, a *** man trying to hold ground in the workplace and you'll find out why straight white men are viewed a privileged.

Meh, I should wait until I finish my morning coffee before commenting. For the record I've been married to this "feminist" for 38 years, I was Mr. Mom for most of my life, I have a daughter with a Masters degree who never got any scholarship money and a *** son who never did as well. I worked for a non-profit organization "Fathers' Rights" organization and know and understand the struggles of men.

Back to my coffee, maybe I'll be more coherent in another hour or so. ;)

RockyMtnHigh
February 26th, 2012, 10:46 AM
BTW Why the hell does the forum now censor G A Y as if it was a bad word??????????????? (had to put spaces in between, otherwise its just ***

I believe it's because G A Y can be used in a derogatory sense. Try and use the word "homosexual" which works much better and is less offensive.

Aaron
February 26th, 2012, 11:19 AM
Goos job keeping this civil so far. Let's keep it that way. Sensitive subjects :what:

Rick
February 26th, 2012, 11:37 AM
you all should no better than to talk about this!!!!!You just opened a can of worms, no will agree so just agree to disagree and go enjoy the day

Chris
February 26th, 2012, 11:57 AM
I believe it's because G A Y can be used in a derogatory sense.

That's it exactly. When I was admin I banned it due to the common "That's so ***" slur. As the father of a queer son it was my small gesture to attempt to eradicate it from this forum. Of course I should have known that that there aren't any homophobes here. :lmao:

About the lack of scholarships for white males a simple Google search will show a prime example of one being offered that also is having trouble finding applicants. :rolleyes:

Java
February 26th, 2012, 12:13 PM
I just re-read all of this, and like everyone else I have my buttons, and Matt UNINTENTIONALLY pushed some today. He's a good guy and I get what he's saying. Sorry to react so strongly, Matt.

Chris
February 26th, 2012, 12:16 PM
Personally, take care of your ***** at home, stop blaming others for what you do not have or perceive as unattainable and go out and get it.

Amen Robyn, thanks. Put another way "Get over it!"

Brody
February 26th, 2012, 03:13 PM
Personally, take care of your ***** at home, stop blaming others for what you do not have or perceive as unattainable and go out and get it.

Robyn summed it up. This thread is now closed.

Don't be surprised to not see it here tomorrow.