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Brad
October 26th, 2013, 09:37 PM
Yes! You read that right! After trail clean up I ran to Frisco to buy another Discovery.
The skinny:
1998 Disco LSE
owner said the motor blew on crow hill, however today he mentioned he only noticed coolant. I still need to investigate the engine damage. May just be head gaskets may be a engine. Jeff has a engine for it if need be but it is a couple months down the project list before we can get to it. Hopefully it's just head gaskets.
Has a terra firma big bore lift just like my 95, wrangler dura tracks with 500 miles on them. Has heated leather seats, rear A/C, land rover rubber mats throughout, 165k miles.
Pics!
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/af706b9a1b8d94aac4ebef5d4a89baaf.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/d27d5de1925dc04cfc4b765bd7378ed7.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/6be812b6d49419be7e7a1d3cea360b32.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/5defbc2b2a19de2841e2e0e889537400.jpg
plans: make it a nice weekend rig to go out in, it will also be the primary tow rig for the pop up camper.
Rob
October 26th, 2013, 11:42 PM
Nice, Brad. Was it pricier than your current rig, or did you get another screaming deal?
Brad
October 27th, 2013, 12:04 AM
It was waaay more expensive. $750. :D
xaza
October 27th, 2013, 08:18 AM
Very nice! It has found a good home.
Patrolman
October 27th, 2013, 01:28 PM
Nice find!
Funrover
October 28th, 2013, 01:10 AM
Always loved that Color scheme on the D1's. Have fun with it!
Java
October 28th, 2013, 11:11 AM
$750!?! :thumb: You didn't even fully pay for the lift and tires.
Brad
October 28th, 2013, 01:30 PM
He said he just spent $1k on the tires, lift is about 2 years old. I confirmed today he blew out the block, cyl 8. Needs a engine. Which is for the better anyway, I can get it resealed and ready ahead of time.
Funrover
October 28th, 2013, 03:23 PM
He said he just spent $1k on the tires, lift is about 2 years old. I confirmed today he blew out the block, cyl 8. Needs a engine. Which is for the better anyway, I can get it resealed and ready ahead of time.
Heck Yeah!! Man I wish found this deal!
scout man
October 28th, 2013, 09:20 PM
nice rig!
Rob
October 29th, 2013, 03:27 PM
It was waaay more expensive. $750.
:lmao:
Brad
December 24th, 2013, 11:00 PM
And so it begins:
plans changed. Putting in a 4.6l engine instead. Extra horsepower for towing.
Patrolman
December 25th, 2013, 09:49 AM
Nice to see you digging into it! At least you have the right space and tools to do the job.
The StRanger
December 25th, 2013, 11:48 PM
Rover 4.6 or the Ford 4.6 ??
Jed
December 26th, 2013, 07:18 PM
How much are you paying the shop to do the swap?.
Brad
December 26th, 2013, 07:39 PM
Rover 4.6.
nothing Jed! I work at JC's British 4x4 as a tech.
The StRanger
December 26th, 2013, 09:28 PM
Rover 4.6.
Dont know that much about the Rover. How much different is it from the Ford ??
Brad
January 7th, 2014, 09:37 AM
Rover engines are loosely based on 60's Buick V8 engines.
Who can spot the problem with this picture?
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/96c7cd96a285ec5c7b15b102fcd647cf.jpg
carpenle
January 7th, 2014, 10:34 AM
There is your prob. right there you do not have an oil pan! :lmao: Spun bearing? What chewed the edge of the crank? Is that a hole in the block?
Rick
January 7th, 2014, 11:50 AM
There is your prob. right there you do not have an oil pan!yep!! that wont last long:lmao:
Funrover
January 7th, 2014, 12:19 PM
Glad to see this project getting started! I'd offer help, but I don't think you need any!
Brad
January 7th, 2014, 12:33 PM
Could also be the hole in the block! :D
I removed the 2 rods for cylinder 7 and 8. The rest was in the oil pan when I dropped it.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/55991ed997249f9d888cac83749d91ed.jpg
carpenle
January 7th, 2014, 01:29 PM
Wow ouch! I thought I was seeing a hole in the block. Just throw some jb weld at it lol :wrench: Do you already have another engine for it?
The StRanger
January 7th, 2014, 01:38 PM
There is your prob. right there you do not have an oil pan! :lmao:
Thats what I was gona say !!
Brad
January 7th, 2014, 02:13 PM
I do, a 4.6l instead of the 4.0 it came with. More horses!
carpenle
January 7th, 2014, 02:28 PM
More horses! :cheers:
Hypoid
January 7th, 2014, 06:01 PM
Who can spot the problem with this picture?Looks like a Penzoil engine...
Funrover
January 7th, 2014, 10:57 PM
Custom engine work, NICE!!
Popsgarage
January 8th, 2014, 07:24 PM
Looks like a Penzoil engine...
Or an "original oil" engine! Was there a hole anywhere in the block, 'cause it sure looks like there should be.
Brad
January 9th, 2014, 07:42 AM
Yep! Look at post 18. :thumb:
And I should clarify, I rotated the engine the 10 degrees or so it would move as Jeff worked the rods loose. They were twisted around the Crank. I found the problem as to why, there was a thick goo sucked up into the oil pickup tube causing this to happen. Almost looked like a sealant.
88Toy
January 12th, 2014, 08:32 PM
So much for those 30,000 mile oil changes...(oil change?)
Were those two pistons seized?
Brad
January 12th, 2014, 10:54 PM
Bearing failure plus the oil starvation caused the rods to break away from the pistons. We figured out the goo was the rubberized coating from the underside of the valley pan gasket. Somehow it delaminated and slipped past the cam and into the oil pan. Pretty crazy stuff. I am glad we figured it out as I was worried it might have been a cooling issue.
Brad
January 30th, 2014, 11:19 PM
Been cruising along on the engine build!
Cleaned up the timing cover (yes, that's clean, it was completely covered in oil and muck)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/f7c75e0fb31f868bf3b8e27404164365.jpg
Reconditioned the heads with fresh valve guide seals, lapped the valves, had to replace 2 valves due to the impact damage.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/770a1885b8a6f4bd49ba06bdd1919e91.jpg
New injector seals, 180 degree thermostat
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/4506528b8f57a3e889980396cf26d856.jpg
Cleaned up the 4.6l engine
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/33b593f73a9f16c233e380886450ac2a.jpg
resealed the coolant plugs. The little black Allen head screws are the pins for the cylinder sleeves.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/4650a8c0e160f89a355c195a5cf58a3a.jpg
The StRanger
January 30th, 2014, 11:22 PM
Man all that stuff looks like ford stuff..
Brad
January 30th, 2014, 11:23 PM
Did all of this after hours tonight, installed timing cover and new water pump. Also installed a new rear main seal but didn't take a pic of that.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/41610e919ca0a9ecbe6d3aabedca488d.jpg
Installed the heads
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/932a2b27e6d697dee90edaf0091bdd8a.jpg
Push rods, rockers, valley pan gasket, rocker covers and the lower intake.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/1c52c78feac73ae48b61691f6fb0e07e.jpg
Brad
January 30th, 2014, 11:48 PM
Man all that stuff looks like ford stuff..
close! It is based on 60's Buick V8 engines.
The StRanger
January 31st, 2014, 12:51 AM
Nice tool cart..
Thinkin its a tech thing..
carpenle
January 31st, 2014, 12:06 PM
Looks like you are moving right along Brad! When do you plan on having it done? Great job so far :bowdown::wrench:
Brad
January 31st, 2014, 01:13 PM
Hoping to stab the motor back in next week and then running within 2 weeks.
Java
January 31st, 2014, 01:39 PM
That's awesome.! :thumb: Are you going to keep both Discos or are you building a replacement?
Brad
February 6th, 2014, 07:48 PM
Keeping both! One overlanding rig and one tow/weekender rig. Towing for the pop up camper.
We have been a bit slow this week so had extra time on my hands.
The goal to put this:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/c22ecf2567a4264df84f5378600c614d.jpg
Here:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/75f8847571e1270256d382eef5e95766.jpg
Through the power of magic Tadaa!
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/01a3a12631e75b807d4fa3693efdcc3d.jpg
Ok, ok, there was a little more work than that. She runs beautifully! :D
Just need to do some finishing work.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/8c8ebb38f5c88d6bf586abd0edf5c354.jpg
carpenle
February 7th, 2014, 09:30 AM
Wow that is magic LOL Glad you got her done :2thumbup:
Brad
February 7th, 2014, 10:57 PM
Drove it home tonight! The 4.6 is incredibly faster than the 3.9 in my 95. Cannot wait to get it on the trails!
xaza
February 7th, 2014, 11:01 PM
very nice!
carpenle
February 10th, 2014, 09:56 AM
Drove it home tonight! The 4.6 is incredibly faster than the 3.9 in my 95.
Congrats Brad!!!
Funrover
February 10th, 2014, 12:17 PM
Very cool!
Brad
February 10th, 2014, 08:43 PM
Passed emissions with flying colors! Now to work on the little things! Like HVAC bulbs, cannot see anything in the dark! :D
Hypoid
February 10th, 2014, 10:34 PM
Through the power of magic Tadaa!OK, I want you to wave your hands over my heap and say "Abracadabra!" or whatever it is you say. :D
carpenle
February 11th, 2014, 09:43 AM
Passed emissions with flying colors!
Always nice to have the emissions monkey off your back!
Brad
February 11th, 2014, 10:43 AM
OK, I want you to wave your hands over my heap and say "Abracadabra!" or whatever it is you say. :D
I will do my best! :thumb:
Funrover
February 11th, 2014, 01:04 PM
I will do my best! :thumb:
Could use that magic here also, Heater core style
Brad
February 11th, 2014, 01:28 PM
And transmission style!
Funrover
February 11th, 2014, 02:29 PM
And transmission style!
Fixed that and sealed the T-case.
Brad
February 11th, 2014, 05:07 PM
Replaced or ??
Patrolman
February 11th, 2014, 07:40 PM
Passed emissions with flying colors! Now to work on the little things! Like HVAC bulbs, cannot see anything in the dark! :D
HVAC bulbs?
Brad
February 11th, 2014, 09:54 PM
Bulb that illuminates the HVAC controls.
Funrover
February 12th, 2014, 02:09 AM
Replaced or ??
Yeah, found one with low miles for a good price.
Patrolman
February 12th, 2014, 02:31 PM
Gotcha. I thought maybe they were a "special" kind of light bulb. :)
Cr33p3r
February 13th, 2014, 09:18 AM
Glad to see you conquered that engine problem. I can relate to seeing in the dark with the lights out on the controls, the Bronco has no dash lights at all except some little green light thingy the PO wired up that is working like a strobe light when you drive but once you stop its on steady, LOL.
Brad
May 2nd, 2014, 07:36 PM
Sometimes you have to resort to old hot rod techniques. The brand new motor mount I put in broke under the torque while 4 wheeling in Moab. Jeff my awesome boss helped me rig up this solution after I replaced the mount.
Java
May 2nd, 2014, 07:38 PM
if I'm getting it, it's kind of a limiting strap? Pretty clever!! :thumb:
Patrolman
May 2nd, 2014, 07:38 PM
I have also heard of guys using chain to do something similar. I guess this was popular in the 60's and 70's with the drag race guys. They were breaking mounts on the one side and this was more of a safety thing than anything.
Brad
May 2nd, 2014, 09:20 PM
if I'm getting it, it's kind of a limiting strap? Pretty clever!! :thumb:
you are correct! I cannot take credit, Jeff had done it on a defender with a powerful V8.
The StRanger
May 3rd, 2014, 12:21 AM
I have also heard of guys using chain to do something similar. I guess this was popular in the 60's and 70's with the drag race guys. They were breaking mounts on the one side and this was more of a safety thing than anything.
Used to run chain from the front of the head to the frame .
Funrover
May 3rd, 2014, 04:13 PM
I have had great luck in the past just using old pucks and all thread. Gonna do that to mine soon. After how long they have lasted in others I've done them to, I'd be foolish to go back to a factory mount.
Brad
June 7th, 2014, 09:29 PM
Finally representing!
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/f38d9049a82d9e9b525e9a51babed338.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/flipswitch/98%20Disco%20build/74050cf88b3309a29b58763834342b89.jpg
glacierpaul
June 7th, 2014, 09:33 PM
That is crazy Brad, I just finally slapped my sticker on today too, it is above my windshield.
Brad
June 7th, 2014, 09:55 PM
Nice Paul! :D
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