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NMC_EXP
November 26th, 2013, 07:35 AM
Are there any gas stations in the Canon City/Pueblo area which sell 100% gasoline as in not adulterated with alcohol?

I've been looking and so far have come up with an empty sack.

Thanks

Jim

Jim
November 26th, 2013, 09:18 AM
http://pure-gas.org/

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=CO

Pueblo shows two stations.

NMC_EXP
November 26th, 2013, 02:27 PM
http://pure-gas.org/

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=CO

Pueblo shows two stations.

Thank you sir....should have known there was a website for that issue.

Jim

SubAlpine
November 29th, 2013, 10:32 PM
Why? Never been really convinced with any of the reasons to not oxygenate fuel. Just curious.

Jim
November 29th, 2013, 10:39 PM
Some old system aren't compatible with oxyfuel. Fiberglass fuel tanks can be one item. I don't have a boat with a built-in fiberglass fuel tank but I do fly ultralight class which has an fiberglass tank. I don't care to have gummed tank bits clogging my main jet when I'm tooling around the sky so I seek out non-oxygenated fuel.

It's been a while, so I did some checking on it. Here is a link and a couple tidbits (the second paragraph sums it up):

www.MercuryMarine.com/service-and-support/storage-and-maintenance/faqs/outboards/?category=ethanol#EthanolCharacteristics (http://www.mercurymarine.com/service-and-support/storage-and-maintenance/faqs/outboards/?category=ethanol#EthanolCharacteristics)

What are the characteristics of ethanol?

Ethanol is an oxygenated hydrocarbon compound that has a high octane rating and therefore is useful in increasing the octane level of unleaded gasoline. The EPA, the agency responsible for setting some of the requirements for all gasoline used in the U.S., has allowed the use of ethanol in gasoline at levels up to 10 percent as an octane enhancer and to provide beneficial clean-burning combustion characteristics that help improve some emissions.

Ethanol is hygroscopic (it has an attraction for water) and will more readily mix with water than with gasoline. It has different solvency behaviors than does gasoline, which allows it to loosen rust and debris that might lay undisturbed in fuel systems. And it can more readily remove plasticizers and resins from certain plastic materials that might not be affected by gasoline alone. Loose debris will plug filters and can interfere with engine operation. Additionally, ethanol is corrosive to some metals, especially in combination with water. Although gasoline does not conduct electricity well, ethanol has an appreciable capability to conduct electricity and therefore can promote galvanic corrosion.


Due to the hygroscopic nature of Ethanol, the "olive jar" test is an easy method to test a fuel sample.

http://pure-gas.org/about

Can I test gas myself to see if it contains ethanol?
Yes, and it's quite easy to do. Inexpensive fuel-testing kits are widely available, or you can just do it yourself:

1. Pour a small amount of water into a narrow jar (an olive jar works great) and mark the water level with a Sharpie.
2. Add the fuel to around a 10:1 fuel:water ratio.
3. Shake well, let settle for a few minutes.
4. >See if the water level has risen above the mark. If it has risen, it has combined with ethanol from the fuel.

NMC_EXP
December 1st, 2013, 09:17 PM
Why? Never been really convinced with any of the reasons to not oxygenate fuel. Just curious.

1. It is thought to cause corrosion in metal fuel system components.

2. It degrades certain kinds of rubber seals used in older vehicles.

3. Ethanol has fewer Btu's per gallon than gasoline. Therefore MPG is reduced in any vehicle.

4. When the net energy equation is balanced (including energy to grow the corn and distill the alcohol) it is a negative compared to gasoline. The only winners in the ethanol as fuel business are corn farmers and the distillers.

Jim

kgm
December 3rd, 2013, 08:22 PM
4. When the net energy equation is balanced (including energy to grow the corn and distill the alcohol) it is a negative compared to gasoline. The only winners in the ethanol as fuel business are corn farmers and the distillers.

Ahhh, beautiful system we have in place isn't it?