Ranger Chris Pre Season Safety talk

[SubAlpine]

Well, it is that time. Have already assisted in several recoveries that were a disaster waiting to happen. So here comes the Ranger.

This video is NSFW. this is how not to do it.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec7_1341527931#dcHQ9xcrR8xJDP3U.01


This is the army manual (found on the google) on proper recovery.

http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/DR_pubs/dr_a/pdf/fm4_30x31.pdf

It is going to be a sloppy muddy snow driftie kinda summer, so lets play safe.

[The StRanger]

That was just ugly !!!

[Chris]

Good reminder Chris, let's all remember the dangerous sh1t surrounding what we love.

[Tom]

Omg

[Robert B]

that almost seems more like metal hit them from something of that nature failing from either too much force for it or improper install but hey I have not broken a strap but I thought they might whip some but don't have much behind them for mass or power .......I could be wrong though .... but yes wicked stuff and for anyone who doesn't know winches have much much more deadly power behind them ... wicked video though

[gm4x4lover]

The strap didn't break but rather the end did off of the stuck 4x4. You should always be mind full of the spectator's around you and always take control of the situation.

[Jim]

Were/are you thinking of putting together a trail run / meet-up to go over practices?

[SubAlpine]

Safety does not end at the strap. The whole weakest link thing applies. From frame to frame, the entire recovery needs to be safe. Shackels, frame mounted tow points and straps need to all be 2 or 3 times the weight being moved.
2000 lb car, stuck in mud: to hub =2000x.5 =3000lbs
above wheel =2000x1.5 =5000lbs
to frame =2000x2 =6000lbs
so that 4runner weighed maybe 5000lbs. Stuck to frame=x2 so 15000 lbs of force needed to move it. The frame mount on both vehicles were solid, but the were tying it to the mounts, and the strap looked ripe for a prison break movie.
My recovery kit consists of:
2 vanbeest 3/4" shackles. working load limit of 4.75 tons. Break point of 62,000lbs
MasterPull yank rope, WLL of 16,500lbs. break strength of like 35,000.

The 4runners owners kid was watching, and neither of them seemed to realize what can happen. My family was way out of the danger zone. I know advanced wilderness first aid, but sure as hell would prefer to not have to use it.

[SubAlpine]

Wrong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8lMxYnGIrw
Better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipbroLWuarg

[SubAlpine]

I had not thought about a meet up, but thats a great idea.

[SubAlpine]

Good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7GSL3o1pUU

I am slightly passionate about this stuff.

[SubAlpine]

Not sure how to feel about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJA3J--g_yI

[Chris]

I had not thought about a meet up, but thats a great idea.

Years ago Pete and Brent did a recovery session for us demonstrating various recovery techniques. It was a good day and I'm sure a lot of us learned something that day on China Wall. Probably a good idea to do it again if you're up for it Chris.

[SubAlpine]

I have finals next week. After that and a possible job change, I would be interested in working on something.

[ExplorerTom]

They hooked the rope to the ball (first video)..... I've heard those can come off and go through windows, seat backs and skulls without slowing down much when yanked on like that.

I think a recovery day would be a great idea. Because when you need the techniques, it'll be in the heat of the moment and you might not be thinking straight. Doing something for the first time in that situation might not be a good thing.