Everyone is out of gas

[Java]

in 53.3 years, according to BP.

http://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/about-bp/energy-economics/statistical-review-of-world-energy/review-by-energy-type/oil/oil-reserves.html

http://cleantechnica.com/2014/07/04/bp-easy-oil-gone-run-out/

[Fatboris]

Peak oil's been talked about for decades. There will continue to be advances in drilling and extraction technology. There is. Lot of discussion among companies about super deep water exploration via drillships in 2 mile deep water. There was a project I think 2 years ago, mile deep water, then 24,000 feet below surface before the rig just couldn't go anywhere. There also quite a bit of theory regarding oil under gas wells but the hold up is strictly due to technology. I'm proud to be a part of the oil and gas industry and am a total geek when it comes to this. I spent a good part of my downtime on a 1 year project interrogating the geologist. There is a great site called fracfocus.org that came about due to regulatory disclosure requirements but also has a lot of cool information about horizontal drilling. Anyone who wants to buy me beer I'll talk to for hours. Crude pictures and diagrams drawn on napkins will be thrown in free of charge!

[Java]

I've heard of peak oil but I hadn't heard a number until today. the second link shows that the number is very suspect, but it still surprised me. I read a good theory that what will happen is someone will discover or invent something that is a game changer, like the internal combustion engine was. Probably a really small rechargeable battery. I'm looking forward to my independent suspension electric wrangler that drives itself. :)

[Jim]

Oil's getting more expensive to obtain. Yes, there is an end but my guess is that markets (our wallets) will come to play before "the end" is at hand.

We'll find that driving oil based vehicles is too darned costly and will switch to other means. Batteries, charged via coal or nat gas power plants, will become vastly more common. With lower demand (for the increasing cost oil) will "extend" the "there's no more" deadline.

I don't "have to" drive a gasoline/diesel powered jeep. I'd be ok with all electric (so long as I can get from A to B with enough reserves). All electric has one great feature - 100% torque at start!

[Chris]

All electric has one great feature - 100% torque at start!

Unfortunately that's its only great feature. The underplayed aspect of all electric is that when the temps drop so does the battery 'mileage'

[Jim]

I see gas-fired battery heaters as an factory option for every electric vehicle!

[newracer]

I would love to have the concept hybrid Jeep with an electric motor for each wheel that Chrysler was proposing a few years back.

[Chris]

The lead developer at Toyota stated very clearly that electric cars are not the future based on his studies. I vote for hydrogen powered vehicles.

http://www.toyota.com/fuelcell/

[glacierpaul]

in 53.3 years, according to BP.

http://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/about-bp/energy-economics/statistical-review-of-world-energy/review-by-energy-type/oil/oil-reserves.html

http://cleantechnica.com/2014/07/04/bp-easy-oil-gone-run-out/


Enter Mad Max and Lord Humungus:lmao:

[Jim]

I'd enjoy an independent motor/drive for each wheel.

No axle/driveline breakage. No need for an ARB/OX/Electric locker (nowhere to put it!).

A hydrogen powered motor to supply electrons to the wheel motors.

Not directly mentioned, but perhaps it's been on the minds of a few... Chris mentioned battery capacity. I'll bring up "Energy Density". Gasoline has us comfortable with the energy density it offers. Batteries are not as dense as gasoline, energywise. Natural gas, IIRC, is even less dense. Sign me up for a Mr. Fusion and I'll call it a day.

[Tom]

The lead developer at Toyota stated very clearly that electric cars are not the future based on his studies. I vote for hydrogen powered vehicles.

http://www.toyota.com/fuelcell/
Carl Akers years ago on news stations did a story, 'Fire in the Water'. I think it was in the late 1970s early 80s. Hydrogen power was totally feasible even back then.

[glacierpaul]

Now that a certain plant is legal here, bring on the hemp power!!

[Jim]

Hmmm... Marketing 101. I'll manufacture and sell the "Colorado Tow Rope"

[Chris]

Now that a certain plant is legal here, bring on the hemp power!!

Require all driver's to toke before driving, freeway speeds would probably max out at 30mph :lmao:

[Java]

what plant?? first I've heard of it. my neighbor drives a Leaf and has solar panels on his roof. if we all had that Excel and BP would be out of business, and the tech already exists. along those lines I read that it's been recently made against the law to have your house off the grid, if you have solar panels your solar has to be routed through the grid; as it stands, in the event of a power failure solar doesn't work either.

[Jim]

WHAT - ILLEGAL???

Cite a law for that?


Now - I could see some stipulation if "your" solar panels have been subsidized by the govt but if they're 100% paid via cash I don't see any legality to disconnect from the grid.


EDIT: What plant? The marijuana plant.

[Java]

marijuana, sounds exotic. I'll have to try that sometime. :thumb:

I should have found the site I was reading before I posted it, my bad. It was about grid-tied vs off-grid and how the utility companies are coming down on that. I'll see if I can find it again.

edit- that was about my friend's area in FL, I didn't read it deeply enough before I ran my mouth, my bad. I found this, it can vary from place to place depending on local ordinances: http://energy.gov/energysaver/articles/planning-home-renewable-energy-systems

[The StRanger]

Carl Akers years ago on news stations did a story, 'Fire in the Water'. I think it was in the late 1970s early 80s. Hydrogen power was totally feasible even back then.
My FIL was talkin Hyrogen power back then to.
He spent 20 sonthin years as an elec engineer is Saude in the oil fields