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Jim
February 21st, 2015, 08:00 PM
Front Range 4x4 is the group of us who get together to enjoy a trail run. The web forum should, within reason, match who is getting together on runs. Said another way, Front Range 4x4 is not the forum - it's us, the people that meet on trail runs.

That realized, the web forum needs to be steered to be kept in line with who is meeting on trail runs.

I just completed the 2014 year end adjustment by inactivating accounts who are not participating on trail runs. The active membership roll is at 195. Everyone can go to Community > Member List > Search Members > Advanced Search > Search Now and look in the bottom left of the search results screen to see (Results 1 to 50 of X). X is the active membership number (if you have any interest).

Aside from general members with membership requirements, there are other members who do not. Of note is Chris (Founder), Brody (who is no longer with us but contributed a WEALTH of info), Active Military (9), Vendors (7) and a scant few Courtesy accounts (1 or 2 - trail advocate groups).

The membership process used stems from the membership requirements thread in late 2013 (one run per year and must log in at least every 60 days). While the login requirement is not of much admin work, the 1-run and yearly communication with people who are in the grey area has proven to be a fair bit of work. Much of the work has been in composing the list of accounts on the bubble and then contacting them. The PM's take a short bit of time to write and it adds up.

A typical month of admin duties looks to be running about 2 hours (I started tracking in late 2014). From Jan 10, 2015 to current (Feb 21, 2015) I'm at 12h37m - so a bit over 6 hours per month for Jan & Feb (Mar+ should go back to typical). I'm not posting the stat for any gratification (though it's appreciated and frequently extended throughout the year), I post it as I have often been curious as to how much work takes place behind the scenes.

WE are the group. Each of us contributes and enjoys. I'm but only one piece of our group. Many others contribute to the pot as well, some via donations to the monthly pot and some via donations of time, skill and ability.

If you think someone's contributions are of merit, make a public post to gratitude to them. You can also send a PM to me for why they should have the "Contributor" badge added to their account. I'd imagine Jackie has put a bit of time into the spreadsheet listing who is bringing what to the Anniversary Run - Thanks Jackie!

Jackie
February 21st, 2015, 08:13 PM
Thanks Jim. I'm trying, but unemployed and studying for a new career. I can't promise I'll get out this spring or summer because well... I don't know if I can afford it. If you have to cut me loose, then by all means do so. I might not make the cut according to the current rules.

Jim
February 21st, 2015, 08:31 PM
hmmm... I'm unsure if your sarcasm isn't registering on my mind. So, one of these two responses would come to the fore:


1) Slacker...

or

2) Just drive the 15.8 miles over to Idaho Springs (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Evergreen,+CO/Idaho+Springs,+CO/@39.6826892,-105.4841158,12z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x876b7531b132cca1:0x83b 795e5a2896558!2m2!1d-105.3172146!2d39.6333213!1m5!1m1!1s0x876ba525c91b6 e55:0xfb9e9ae2915f3f68!2m2!1d-105.5136081!2d39.7424881) and ride along with someone else for a cleanup run - that's all it would take!

Chris
February 21st, 2015, 08:57 PM
Aside from general members with membership requirements, there are other members who do not. Of note is Chris (Founder)

Thanks for that Jim but I think I should have to meet the same standards of everyone else, I'm not one to ride on things from the past.

That and I've already made a run for 2015! :D

Good to see you doing this as it's been one thing that I believe has kept this group as successful as it is. I also want to thank you for your time and effort, I know it can be time-consuming and pretty thankless, but so important in keeping us all on track.

Jackie
February 21st, 2015, 09:19 PM
hmmm... I'm unsure if your sarcasm isn't registering on my mind. So, one of these two responses would come to the fore:


1) Slacker...

or

2) Just drive the 15.8 miles over to Idaho Springs and ride along with someone else for a cleanup run - that's all it would take!

There was no sarcasm in my post. Only truth.

Chris
December 18th, 2015, 12:00 PM
Is this still the plan? Just curious.

Jim
December 18th, 2015, 01:07 PM
Yes.

Each of us started out with four spare tires. Several people have used one spare to keep active as they had not joined a run for the season. The spares are there as an option to keep active for all.

Chris
December 18th, 2015, 02:40 PM
No visual flat tires? That would probably be something folks would appreciate. Where are we at with "active" members these days Jim?

Jim
December 20th, 2015, 08:58 PM
No visual flat tires? That would probably be something folks would appreciate.

Each member who wishes to pull a spare is notified as to their spares remaining status in an e-mail when the account is reactivated.

I started to create a full/flat tire icon set but it appears I've forgotten and it has not been tended.

Would anyone wish to create an icon set to illuminate the issue?

I imagine four full tires, three full & one flat, etc.

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Shadowmaker
December 27th, 2015, 12:26 AM
Just to make sure I understand...

What makes the 4 wheels necessary to keep membership here?

1) Attend a trail event 1 time per year
2) Stay active on the forums at least every 60 days?
3) ?
4) ?



Thanks,
Jim

The StRanger
December 27th, 2015, 12:35 AM
3) Dont be a tool.

Jim
December 27th, 2015, 10:20 AM
Yep. 1-run/year
Yep. 60 days login
Yep. don't be a tool

I can't think of any 4th item.

We're a group who gets together to wheel!

Shadowmaker
December 27th, 2015, 10:56 AM
Thanks for the clarity!

Chris
December 27th, 2015, 11:25 AM
http://www.frontrange4x4.com/forums/misc.php?do=showrules

dieseldoc
December 27th, 2015, 01:25 PM
#4 get out and wheel

Jim
December 27th, 2015, 01:48 PM
Well, there is perhaps another, call it #5... It is implied (though is blatant on the sign-up sheet): You must live in the Front Range area of Colorado. Why? Because of the "we get out to wheel" fundamental of our group. If you don't live close, reality is that you won't get out to wheel and be an active member.

Hypoid
December 27th, 2015, 06:45 PM
No visual flat tires? That would probably be something folks would appreciateI feel some might view that as a negative.

I also feel that the members who do want to participate, are well aware of their status.

Jim
December 28th, 2015, 05:05 PM
I feel some might view that as a negative.

I also feel that the members who do want to participate, are well aware of their status.

I agree on both points.