Borrow/Rent engine hoist

[FINOCJ]

Looking for someone that might have a engine hoist cherry picker. I am pulling the V6 for rebuild work and would love to get it out soon. I have found a couple places that rent them somewhat reasonably priced, but haven't check a free rental/return option at the FLAPS yet. Potentially, I could use as soon as Sat afternoon. Feel free to post back here or you can contact me directly at 832-392-0575.

thanks all...

Fino

[Patrolman]

I've got one. You know where I live. It is a HF model. It is showing its age, but still works ok. You are welcome to borrow it.

Personally before I rented one I would purchase one if you have the room to store it. They are under $150 new from HF when you use a 20% off coupon

http://www.harborfreight.com/1-ton-capacity-foldable-shop-crane-69512.html

[FINOCJ]

Thanks Jeff - hadn't seen any quite that cheap - will definitely look into that. The large item rental shops it will probably be close to $50 a day, and I would need it both for removal and install, so that is at least two days. I will check the FLAPS and also see if I can get one from HF with coupon. Otherwise I might also try to track you down. thanks,

[Patrolman]

Mine is the HF version, but is non-folding. It is about 15 years old. I have probably pulled 15 engines or more with it. If you buy one, you won't be disappointed. Plus you may find yourself using it to move, lift, or support other heavy objects around the garage (axles, transmission, etc).

[Java]

just got a HF circular with a coupon for that, item 69512 or 61858 or 69445; coupon code is 17638737 price drops to 137.99.

[Hypoid]

I have a hoist you can borrow.

[FINOCJ]

I picked up the 1 ton crane from HF - about $130 with the 20% coupon on top of the 'special' sale price. Its got mixed reviews but think it should work. I hope it will lift high enough to get the bottom of the engine clear of the fenders etc - but it is very easy to remove the front grill on an old cj so that will be the back up plan. Progress continues...

[Jim]

I hope it will lift high enough to get the bottom of the engine clear of the fenders etc - but it is very easy to remove the front grill on an old cj so that will be the back up plan. Progress continues...

Or, if/when access from underneath is not needed any more - just before you pull it - remove front tires and lower the front end closer to the ground.

[Patrolman]

I think that I used my hoist to pull my 225 from my CJ6 years ago. It was on 35's with a spring over. Cleared the grill no problem. I had the boom extended all the way out to do it as it allowed the max height. You may not be able to do it in the garage though depending on your rafters.

[Patrolman]

Don't forget that you will almost certainly want an engine stand as well. They are super handy once the engine is out to be able to tear it all down.

[FINOCJ]

No sure how much of the tear down and rebuild I am going to do yet. I may do it all and thus need a engine stand, or might hand the block with crank up through valve train over to a rebuild shop. The block and heads are gonna have to go to a machine shop for machining, may need hardened valve seats for unleaded fuel if it hasn't been doen already, and the crank will need machining as well, so it may not cost that much more to have them put the internals in. Just to ask, sounds like the hardest part of building it back would be getting the connecting rods attached to the pistons.

[Patrolman]

It is probably a considerable amount cheaper if you have everything torn down for the machine shop rather than taking a complete engine in. They will likely charge you the shop rate to tear it down into individual parts. Remove the oil pan, intake, exhaust manifolds, valve covers, clutch, etc.

I have an engine stand you can borrow if you want to use it. I think they are only about $30-$40 new though. It is a nice-to-have since it is steady, can rotate, and can roll around.

[FINOCJ]

That is the tentative plan for now - i actually have removed most all that stuff (except the intake manifold and clutch) as it sits now in the jeep. I want to make sure I can remove it with intake installed (use other bolt locations on the front and back of the heads) as I want to be able to install it with the intake already on.

[FINOCJ]

Well - the HF lift worked. It had plenty of height to get up and over the fenders, but it does not have a lot of reach out over the engine bay. My engine is set back against the fire wall and I had to remove the front bumper and winch to get enough reach. It was also a tight squeeze getting the engine up and out with the front grill on. Will probably remove it before re-installing the engine. Also, if anyone ever suggests to me that its easier to remove the engine rather than the transmission and TC in order to access the clutch etc...I won't believe it. I hope I can get the damn thing back in without damaging the transmission input shaft. I might still remove the transmission etc before re-installing the engine. But I do think it will be a lot easier to come on it straight on from the front without the front grill on.

Anyone know much about Spitfire engine builders? Chatted with them this week about my projects as well as western engine last week. Progress continues...

forgot to include the pics! Its a bit of a celebration that I got this thing out all by myself...
http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag456/jco6560/DSCN8217_zpsckkcszg7.jpg (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/jco6560/media/DSCN8217_zpsckkcszg7.jpg.html)
http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag456/jco6560/DSCN8216_zpseuidsmzs.jpg (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/jco6560/media/DSCN8216_zpseuidsmzs.jpg.html)

[78bj40]

Making some progress. Good luck James.

[Brad]

Looking good!:thumb:

[Hypoid]

Good job!

If you have made alignment studs for mating the bell housing to the block, they work just as well for installing the engine.

[Patrolman]

Glad that it came out relatively quick and easy!

On my hoist I took most of the links out of the chain that attach to the hoist. I think there are only 2 links and the hook. You can then get the engine lifted another 6-8 inches. It was a great decision and has never given me a problem where I thought I might need more links.

Also, when putting the engine back in, you may consider using a load lever attached to the hoist. It will make getting the engine in at the right angle much easier.

http://www.harborfreight.com/2-ton-capacity-heavy-duty-load-leveler-60659.html

[FINOCJ]

A load leveler will probably be needed if I want to install it with the transmission in place. Or at least it will make it much easier. I almost shortened the picker chain a few links, but careful measurement indicated it wasn't needed. I was worried about height of lift but its the length of the reach out over and into the engine bay that could be a problem for future reference. Also, I had the extending arm in the farthest out position, which also limits it load capacity. Might be iffy for a v8 or big block. Of course it is the smallest of the options at HF and my engine block stripped down is less than 350lbs or so.

[Patrolman]

I think that I have a load leveler if you need to borrow one. Remind me when you get to that point. I can check and see.

[dieseldoc]

X2 on the load leveler

[Hypoid]

I think that I have a load leveler if you need to borrow one. Remind me when you get to that point. I can check and see.I have one, have not used for an engine yet. I did measure and it adds at least another 10" to the tackle hanging off the end of the hoist.

Use one or not, I think you will do well enough. This one is available for loan.