Front Range 4x4 T-Shirts

[Chris]

We talked about this as a use of our funds from the Bronco II but since we didn't scrap the majority of it we didn't generate the income. Better to see it re-used anyway.

So I'm putting this out to see if anyone would be interested so we could put in a bulk order with Gunnar (Lock, Stock & Vinyl) who's a sponsor of this site.

I'm asking Gunnar to check in to answer any questions, field any ideas, etc.

[Jeepin Chef]

We talked about this as a use of our funds from the Bronco II but since we didn't scrap the majority of it we didn't generate the income. Better to see it re-used anyway.

So I'm putting this out to see if anyone would be interested so we could put in a bulk order with Gunnar (Lock, Stock & Vinyl) who's a sponsor of this site.

I'm asking Gunnar to check in to answer any questions, field any ideas, etc.
I would be In for that

[Tye]

I think group shirts are a great idea and what better way to show our efforts. I can try and find a site that I saw once a while back that if a logo can be done, they can also put logo on cups, stickers and just about anything else we can think up. It is done like a store and one decides what they wnat and pay for it.

[Chris]

That sounds like Cafe Press, I can look too and link for consideration.

[Chris]

Here's the one I mentioned, I'm sure there are more. I used this on a previous site years ago.

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/?id=5

[Funrover]

I'd buy 1 ...er.....2

[Jeepin Chef]

I'd buy 1 ...er.....2
Ive bought a couple of shirts from cafe ''
and When I was in a 4x4 club I searched for shirts and made them ...
here in town..

[Pathrat]

I'd order one. Are we thinking a FR4x4 type block logo or maybe a screen of a picture from the Bronco removal?

[Patrolman]

I would be interested in at least 1 shirt. Would like to toss the idea around of what the shirt would look like though. Any thoughts?

[Chris]

Ive bought a couple of shirts from cafe ''
and When I was in a 4x4 club I searched for shirts and made them ...
here in town..

Cafe Press is good for low quantity and since we don't exactly have a bankroll may be the most sensible though most expensive too. I'll have to check for quantity orders.


I'd order one. Are we thinking a FR4x4 type block logo or maybe a screen of a picture from the Bronco removal?

Haven't thought that far ahead.


I would be interested in at least 1 shirt. Would like to toss the idea around of what the shirt would look like though. Any thoughts?

See the above :lol:

Let the ideas flow! :thunb:

[Tye]

Here's the one I mentioned, I'm sure there are more. I used this on a previous site years ago.

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/?id=5

Well I would beleive thats the one....
:bow:

[Pathrat]

Admin, do you have a certain font you use for "FR4x4"...or do we have a logo yet?

[Pathrat]

This is very rudimentary, but if we don't have something what about a small logo along these lines?

I like our icon in the top left, of many of us on the trail we clean up. For T-shirts, are people looking for a 'generic' FR4x4 shirt or something specific? Looking for clues to bring out some ideas.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x102/pathrat40/logo1.jpg

[mikem]

You should have a design contest.

Specify a time frame for entries, a few weeks to a month or so.

Let people enter front and back design. Decide if you want to allow multiple entries.

Set requirements for design. e.g must have fr4x4 logo incorporated, must be in good taste, no Land Rovers allowed, etc.

Choose a panel to judge (or post designs on forum and let everyone judge).

Choose most popular after a week or so of judging.

Winner gets a free shirt (or other prize). Alternatively, get a sponsor to provide nice prize in return for their logo included on shirt.

[Chris]

I like these ideas, I'd like to hear more. :thunb:

I have no artistic ability, get by with Photoshop so am more than interested in any and all suggestions.

A design contest would be great, does anyone have an artistic leaning?

Pathrat, I like the start you have. I like the photo on the top of the page because it shows the variety of trucks and was taken on a clean up but it's not really a logo. I use whatever font I like at the moment so I'm not tied to anything.

Looking forward to hearing from more people even if it's a yea or nay to anything already posted.

[KnuckleHead]

Brenda and I would be good for a couple shirts. What about some kind of patch that could be put anywhere 1 wants to.? Thinking like a jacket or something. Maybe big enough for the back of it.? Would last longer I would think. Just a thought....

[4runner freak]

Great Idea.
Chris, I'd be interested in 1.
I'll try to get the design juices flowing.


You should have a design contest.

Specify a time frame for entries, a few weeks to a month or so.

Let people enter front and back design. Decide if you want to allow multiple entries.

Set requirements for design. e.g must have fr4x4 logo incorporated, must be in good taste, no Land Rovers allowed, etc.

Choose a panel to judge (or post designs on forum and let everyone judge).

Choose most popular after a week or so of judging.

Winner gets a free shirt (or other prize). Alternatively, get a sponsor to provide nice prize in return for their logo included on shirt.

[Chris]

Brenda and I would be good for a couple shirts. What about some kind of patch that could be put anywhere 1 wants to.? Thinking like a jacket or something. Maybe big enough for the back of it.? Would last longer I would think. Just a thought....

That's a good idea too, patches tend to get expensive since it's embroidery but since I've seen mall kiosks offering it maybe not so expensive when computer driven.

[Chris]

Great Idea.
Chris, I'd be interested in 1.
I'll try to get the design juices flowing.

Anyone with a hint of creative juices is encouraged to give it a shot too.

I'm thinking Mike's approach may be the most sensible but before thinking of a contest I'd like to know there are some people interested in creating something.

Early members will recall I tried this a while ago and it didn't go anywhere.

[KnuckleHead]

Just thought I would throw this out there. I know someone that has a press to copy images onto shirts and all. I'll that is need is the logo and transfer paper. Print the logo on the paper and press it on. If thats something that you are thinking about we might beable to just do it ourselves.?

[Pathrat]

I can do simple icons, I found the font I like, but simple is as good as I get. Anyone want to build on my initial sketch? Or now for something completely different?

[Chris]

That brings to mind the fact that the resolution would have to be pretty high for good print results.

[Pathrat]

That brings to mind the fact that the resolution would have to be pretty high for good print results.

if you want hi-res pictures, I have them from our latest outing. I am still doing the post-production and will post when I am done.

[Funrover]

What are the chances of the main forum participants/helpers/Wheelers all getting toghether with their rig for a shot?

[Pathrat]

What are the chances of the main forum participants/helpers/Wheelers all getting toghether with their rig for a shot?

Getting people together in the same place at the same time? Hmmm, going to be tough. We could take group shots at each trail run, highest res possible, and maybe photochop the pictures?

[Chris]

What are the chances of the main forum participants/helpers/Wheelers all getting toghether with their rig for a shot?

Or just for a good time - another get-together?

[DETN8R]

I'd love a shirt. Even though I'm probably the least active member.

[Pathrat]

As far as the design of a proposed t-shirt: before I spin my wheels too hard, are we looking for a photo print on said shirt? Logo design and a photo? Is there a consensus yet?

[Chris]

No consensus one way or the other.

Opinions? Preferences? :help:

[Patrolman]

I think the traditional design of a logo on the front top corner and then a pic in the back is ideal. I assume that costs more though, right?

[Chris]

I think the traditional design of a logo on the front top corner and then a pic in the back is ideal. I assume that costs more though, right?

I have no idea. Pathrat could you send me your best copy of that again?

[4runner freak]

As far as the design of a proposed t-shirt: before I spin my wheels too hard, are we looking for a photo print on said shirt? Logo design and a photo? Is there a consensus yet?

I say logo design and website.
Maybe Forest service emblem? Ask for $$ from them?
Maybe a line type photo? Like this style?
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/frontrange4x4headerLines.jpg
Or this:
http://www.solidrockoff-road.com/images/logo.gif

I'll work on a logo design.

[4Runner3Wheeler]

Sign me up for at least one shirt!

When buying T-shirts, cost is dictated by placing an image on the front, back or both, the image size, and how many colors one uses. For example, the least expensive shirt would be a small black logo on the left breast. I've shopped for shirts before for parties. You can find a local T-shirt company that can do 50 or 100 for $6-8 per shirt. It may be a good idea to charge $15/shirt and keep the remaining money in a fund.

I would personally like to keep with a logo and not a photo, although a logo on the left breast and a photo on the back would be cool, but more costly. If we do a photo, it would be imperative to show a Toyota, Jeep, Nissan, Ford, Land Rover, and Chevy in the photo to demonstrate our non-discrimination policy.

I would like to participate in a logo design contest, but my design would be hand drawn. I like the idea of the winner receiving a free shirt. I'm envisioning the words "Front Range" being morphed to look like two off road vehicles climbing an escalating "4x4" image.

I would like to show my support for FR4x4 by displaying a window sticker. Where have members gotten these stickers?

[Funrover]

Or just for a good time - another get-together?

Cool.....:thunb:

[4runner freak]

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/FR4X4-2.jpg

Here is my 5 minute try.
A little stolen :D

[Chris]

Cool ideas, nice to hear ideas from those of you that know about this stuff, it's been 20+ years since I had t-shirts made.

Let's go with the contest concept originally mentioned by MikeM, free t-shirt to the winner. I agree that it's imperative to somehow display the variety of makes per our non-discrimination policy too.

I'm not sure which would work best so let's leave it wide open and see what everyone (I hope there are multiple members capable) comes up with.

Front Range 4x4 stickers are still available by PM to me. I don't have many left but you can try to specify a color and I'll see what I have - black, white or silver. I'll probably get more made after seeing what comes of this so that maybe the logo can be incorporated into the next run.

[Chris]

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/FR4X4-2.jpg (http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/FR4X4-2.jpg)

Here is my 5 minute try.
A little stolen :D

A little stolen is fine, Jim wouldn't mind I'm sure. His logo was a group effort and the final was actually cleaned up and embellished by my brother. Of course that looks like a Land cruiser club and we don't want to give anyone that idea. ;)

I would also like Front Range 4x4 to be spelled out and not abbreviated to FR4X4 even though http://fr4x4.com leads to the site. ;)

[4runner freak]

I know, I know.
But I'm biased towards this 4runner.
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/4RUNNEROUTLINEWITHFR4X4.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/FR4X4RWB.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/FR4X4BW.jpg

[Chris]

Another thought is to put whatever inside a circle or oval...

[4runner freak]

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/fr4x4-4.jpg

[Patrolman]

Sign me up for at least one shirt!

When buying T-shirts, cost is dictated by placing an image on the front, back or both, the image size, and how many colors one uses. For example, the least expensive shirt would be a small black logo on the left breast. I've shopped for shirts before for parties. You can find a local T-shirt company that can do 50 or 100 for $6-8 per shirt. It may be a good idea to charge $15/shirt and keep the remaining money in a fund.

I would personally like to keep with a logo and not a photo, although a logo on the left breast and a photo on the back would be cool, but more costly. If we do a photo, it would be imperative to show a Toyota, Jeep, Nissan, Ford, Land Rover, and Chevy in the photo to demonstrate our non-discrimination policy.

I would like to participate in a logo design contest, but my design would be hand drawn. I like the idea of the winner receiving a free shirt. I'm envisioning the words "Front Range" being morphed to look like two off road vehicles climbing an escalating "4x4" image.

I would like to show my support for FR4x4 by displaying a window sticker. Where have members gotten these stickers?

Admin usually has stickers floating around. Ask the next time you see him! BTW, I need 1 more white if you happen to find one Admin.

[4runner freak]

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/fr4x4-5.jpg

Chris,
I'd like a sticker if there are any left.
Any color.

[Tye]

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/fr4x4-4.jpg


This is cool maybe done in B&W on the left breast then for the back, a pic of the different rigs such as from our adopt-a-trail pic like the sign in B&W...just gotta Brody' rig in it :thunb:

[Tye]

[QUOTE=4runner freak;13412]I say logo design and website.
Maybe Forest service emblem? Ask for $$ from them?
Maybe a line type photo? Like this style?
[IMG]http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/frontrange4x4h

O.K I'm dumb and cant multy post... I like this for the back, I really dont want to copy another logo.

[Pathrat]

I do like the line drawing concept of our group photo up on the left side of our page. Pretty cool. Danny- great ideas, I am happy to see something coming up on here. Chris, I am still trying to run mine through photoshop and have also handing it off to my daughter, who is very creative and proficient in photoshop. Not much will get done this weekend since we are going to Utah. But, here is the first shot.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x102/pathrat40/logo3copy.jpg

We can do whatever brush strokes and effects that my kid can show me how to do.

[Patrolman]

Can we use photoshop and sort of do an overlay of different rigs? Just a thought. I really suck at these programs. I have the MBA so I am just supposed to have the "vision", right?! :)

[Pathrat]

I think if the person who did the ink 'drawing' of our rigs did that to the group photo, we should be able to do some overlay thing on photoshop. I will have to ask my daughter. This is her entry for a logo:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/_ChEaPsEx_/Logo.jpg (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/_ChEaPsEx_/Logo.jpg)

[Patrolman]

Looking good!

So, since I suck at anything artistic, imagine these pics with some of our rigs instead. Yes, even the family guy pic. Basically each rig overlaying the previous... That is my general idea.

[Tye]

I think if the person who did the ink 'drawing' of our rigs did that to the group photo, we should be able to do some overlay thing on photoshop. I will have to ask my daughter. This is her entry for a logo:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/_ChEaPsEx_/Logo.jpg (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/_ChEaPsEx_/Logo.jpg)


I like it ..

[Chris]

O.K I'm dumb and cant multy post...

Tye, Click "multiquote" for each one until the last quote where you click "quote/reply"

;)

[Chris]

I'm keeping quiet on this, I'd like to know what everyone else likes instead of forcing my preferences on anyone. I do likehttp://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/frontrange4x4headerLines.jpg (http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/frontrange4x4headerLines.jpg)

and Pathrat's concept of a line drawing. The background would interfere with many uses IMHO.

[Chris]

My turn...

[Tye]

Tye, Click "multiquote" for each one until the last quote where you click "quote/reply"

;)

Well thank you kind sir...:bow:

[Pathrat]

My turn...


I do like this, but I would change the font, even though I think it matches the style of the mountain line drawing.

Of course, I have an innate preference for the one my kid did. :D

[Chris]

As I said, my artistic ability is minimal at best. I'm thinking a black on white small line drawing would be most versatile. Nothing against your daughter's of course!

[Pathrat]

As I said, my artistic ability is minimal at best. I'm thinking a black on white small line drawing would be most versatile. Nothing against your daughter's of course!

Then I would suggest building off yours with a more rugged look, pointier mountains with a steeper angle.

[5280Hawk]

i like Chris's the best.

It's simple which for me makes it wearable

[4runner freak]

Chris,
I found another shirt website.
http://www.customink.com
Here is the shirt I designed.
What do you all think?
Maybe a gray shirt? Black?
What font did you use on the logo, Chris?
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/FR4x4tshirts.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/FR4x4tshirts2.jpg

[Chris]

I like the first better, can you eliminate the lines around the front image?

I'd buy a couple ;)

I'll look for the font and post it when I find it.

[4runner freak]

As shown, the white shirts are $10.75ea, and the gray are $11.45ea
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/FR4x4tshirts3.jpg

[4runner freak]

Here is the front logo with the matching font
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/FR4x4tshirts4.jpg

[4runner freak]

I forgot to mention...

They have FREE shipping.

[Chris]

The pricing seems reasonable to me. If you're using what I posted I think the final wouldn't look very good due to the low-res of that image. It would have to be re-done in hi-res (minimum 200dpi) wouldn't it?

[Chris]

When I get time I'd like to try to turn the oval (above) in to a line drawing and see what it looks like.

[Pathrat]

Looks great either way. Grey gets my vote. Gate Monkey and I would definitely be in for a pair. Cute, we would match!

[Funrover]

Grey would be better then white for me..... White tends to become a work shirt in ten min or less

[4runner freak]

Grey would be better then white for me..... White tends to become a work shirt in ten min or less

x2

Chris,
How does this look?

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/oval_fr_75bw.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/fr4x4ovaltshirt2.jpg

[Chris]

That's better! How about clearing the sky so the text stands out?

Thanks for doing what I can't! ;)

[4runner freak]

That's better! How about clearing the sky so the text stands out?

Thanks for doing what I can't! ;)

I changed the text to the font on the back.
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/fr4x4ovaltshirtnoskynewfont.jpg

[Tye]

Grey would be better then white for me..... White tends to become a work shirt in ten min or less


Ditto... Great work on the shirts.

[4Runner3Wheeler]

Great work! I like the oval on the front.

Grey, navy blue, or black.

XL

[Chris]

Nice work, I like it!

One more request, please post a new front and back so we call all see the final version w/o jumping back and forth? Do you think the mountains should be cleaned up a bit? Just curious, really think they look good.

Can you provide the printer with hi-res version? I understand white on black is hard to produce and look clean.

Ditto on the white, they become works shirts after 1 wearing though I have to be honest and say all my shirts seem to become work shirts. :p

[4runner freak]

I'll see what I can do with a black shirt, and I'll try to clean up the mountains.
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/FR4x4Newovaltshirt.jpg

[4runner freak]

Still looks good
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/4runnerFreak/FR4x4Newovaltshirtblack-1.jpg

[Chris]

Cool Danny!

What's next?

[Funrover]

Black.... I like!

[5280Hawk]

Those are awesome!

I would take either color, though Preferably Grey,