Wheelers for the Wounded wants YOU!!

[Fortress of Tranquility]

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We are helping coordinate the hosting of this event in Colorado on July 18-19th, 2009. I am hoping I can get some help from a variety of 4-wheel drive clubs in Colorado so we can represent a wide variety of interests, vehicle types and driving styles. We are lucky to have a small core group that has already started on the initial planning for this event and we have been fortunate to have raised some funds through a charity event.

Right now I am looking for two levels of interest:

First: A few dedicated folks who can assist with the planning and implementation of the event itself. This team of about ten (10) will need to work closely together to take care of details that include land use permits, insurance, emergency services, transportation, camping/housing, food, entertainment, and locating wounded service men and women who would like to participate, either as drivers or passengers. If you have skills that would help accomplish any of these needs, and are willing to spend time with us doing so, please let me know! Even if you can simply point us in the right direction, any and all support is welcome.

Second: Folks who would be willing to provide a reliable vehicle and passenger seat for a wounded veteran to ride in. We will be looking at a wide variety of trails dependent on the build level of the vehicles we are able to provide. We will rely on these folks to cooperate in groups of around five vehicles with trail leaders, spotters and tailgunners, while providing for any needs our drivers and passengers might need.

Please check the link below for detailed information on the Wheelers for the Wounded program:

www.wheelersforthewounded.org (http://www.wheelersforthewounded.org)

If you would like to climb on board, check out the Colorado section of the forum on the Wheelers for the Wounded site here:

http://www.wheelersforthewounded.com/forum/index.php

Rather than trying to update threads on numerous 4-wheel drive forums, I will be using the Wheelers for the Wounded forum as a nexus for all of this information. I know it is asking something to have each of you monitor another forum, but it saves me the time of looking at what will likely be several at a time! Look forward to seeing some familiar faces and meeting some new folks as well.

Cheers!

[Roostercruiser]

as of now im in on giving vets a good time with possibly 2 trucks. july is along ways away and alot of thngs could happen but right now im in on helping vets

[Fortress of Tranquility]

as of now im in on giving vets a good time with possibly 2 trucks. july is along ways away and alot of thngs could happen but right now im in on helping vets

The more the absolutely the merrier! Look forward to seeing you here, there, wherever :D

[Roostercruiser]

as of now im in on giving vets a good time with possibly 2 trucks. july is along ways away and alot of thngs could happen but right now im in on helping vets

[Roostercruiser]

The more the absolutely the merrier! Look forward to seeing you here, there, wherever :D

let ask my employer and see if they woul like to sponsor or donate anything cant hurt to ask.

[Brody]

If I ain't dead by then, count me in, Eric....Glad to help...though I gotta say, if we used tactical nukes over there , we wouldn't be dealing with our wounded vets...and to hell with their wounded...

[Chris]

Thanks for posting this Eric, I posted on the forum to try to keep you from jumping around too much.

[http://www.wheelersforthewounded.com/forum/index.php]

[Funrover]

HMMMMM.... if I am here!

[fullszfun]

Please keep me in the loop on this one. I will always have a seat available for a vet.
By July my rig may actually be in good shape again.

[Fortress of Tranquility]

let ask my employer and see if they woul like to sponsor or donate anything cant hurt to ask.

That would be great! One of our other participants had some luck with his and any help will go a long way.

[Fortress of Tranquility]

If I ain't dead by then, count me in, Eric....Glad to help...though I gotta say, if we used tactical nukes over there , we wouldn't be dealing with our wounded vets...and to hell with their wounded...

From the great info I've seen you provide on this forum, it would be great to have you keep us on track.

[Fortress of Tranquility]

Thanks for posting this Eric, I posted on the forum to try to keep you from jumping around too much.

[http://www.wheelersforthewounded.com/forum/index.php]

Thank you Chris, I'll hit you up over there!

[Fortress of Tranquility]

HMMMMM.... if I am here!


I'll try to remain optimistic :D

[Fortress of Tranquility]

Please keep me in the loop on this one. I will always have a seat available for a vet.
By July my rig may actually be in good shape again.

If you have time, check out the WFTW forum and get wrenching!

[Pathrat]

I will offer up my passenger seat, sure thing. I will put it on my calender.

[Fortress of Tranquility]

I will offer up my passenger seat, sure thing. I will put it on my calender.

Splendid! We need to adequately represent the Voodoo :thunb:

[Pathrat]

Splendid! We need to adequately represent the Voodoo :thunb:

Can I just sit in your shadow when we line up and air down? :D

[Pathrat]

Splendid! We need to adequately represent the Voodoo :thunb:

I just registered and tried to post my reply on the site. However, with both Mozilla and IE I get the error message that the format is not supported so while I can read, I cannot post. Any hints?

EDIT...got it. Thanks Chris. I redid the post and got it up.

[Chris]

I'm trying to send a PM and it's stalled, might be a site problem at the moment.

[Chris]

It took a few minutes to send my pm, try again in a bit.

[Fortress of Tranquility]

Thanks y'all!! We're getting together this Saturday, January 31 to chat about this if you would like to join us:

http://wheelersforthewounded.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=d9701c86b32e20e2b5bfa907695364 d9&topic=204.0

[Brody]

Getting together where? I went to the posted link and all I found was a March 22nd date with a 'we are getting together at my house' and no address....

I don't know if I am going to be able to make this Saturday either, but post times and place for those of us who can make it.

I am still in for the actual run, if there is any way that I can make it....

[fullszfun]

Unfortunately I won't be able to attend this Saturdays (31st) meeting. I have previous obligations. Definately am still planning on participating in the event.

[Chris]

Pete, I hope you can make it because I can't. Nice to have FR4x4 represented. Pm Eric for his address: http://frontrange4x4.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=269

I couldn't find it on that forum link either.

[Fortress of Tranquility]

Getting together where? I went to the posted link and all I found was a March 22nd date with a 'we are getting together at my house' and no address....

I don't know if I am going to be able to make this Saturday either, but post times and place for those of us who can make it.

I am still in for the actual run, if there is any way that I can make it....

PM sent, look forward to meeting you!


Unfortunately I won't be able to attend this Saturdays (31st) meeting. I have previous obligations. Definately am still planning on participating in the event.

No worries, I'll update once we get closer.


Pete, I hope you can make it because I can't. Nice to have FR4x4 represented. Pm Eric for his address: http://frontrange4x4.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=269

I couldn't find it on that forum link either.

Sorry we'll miss you, but more to follow!

[Fortress of Tranquility]

I've been sending emails and PMs to folks that have expressed interest, so keep an eye out. If you don't hear from me, please feel free to shoot me an email!

fjcruzer123@yahoo.com
720-334-1747

[RockyMtnHigh]

Hello folks!

If you are receiving this message it is likely that you have expressed interest in participating in and/or assisting with the Wheelers for the Wounded event on July 18, 2009. I have attached the details for the event as a Word document. Several folks have already been helping us with the basic plan, but it’s now time to expand and get some additional positions filled.

Most of you have expressed a desire to provide a vehicle and seats for riders and I need to get a few caveats out in the open; most of this is simply for liability.

First, any vehicle participating in this event must be insured, and if necessary, properly registered. All drivers also need to be properly and currently licensed.

Second, we will be conducting vehicle inspections to make certain the basics for safety are operating properly (brakes, seat belts, etc.) Please keep in mind, this is a day for entertaining our guests and is not an appropriate time to test out your new rig or modifications. We want to spend the day wheeling, not repairing!!

Third, we will be requiring all participants to sign a liability waiver.

That said, here’s what I would like to get nailed down next: We are planning to run five trail teams on five different trails in the Buena Vista area. We will be staging at Chinaman Gulch/BV Carnage and will reconvene there again for our evening BBQ.

For each of those five trails I need experienced trail leaders, spotters and tailgunners. I know many of you folks have experience on these trails and I would like to take advantage of that as much as possible. Please look at the trail list and if you know a trail particularly well and are willing to fill one of these position, let me know and we’ll iron out the details.

At your leisure, check out the trails (http://wheelersforthewounded.org/forum/index.php/topic,828.0.html) and let me know what you are comfortable with. Even if you do not want to lead, spot, or gun, let me know which trails you would like to run so I can start putting together the trail teams. I will also be setting up a date for preruns sometime in the next couple of months and it would be great to have any of you join in on that fun. Let me know.

There are alos lots of other areas that we could use help on, so if you would like to offer up some talent in some other realm, please let me know and I'll hook you up!

Thank you all again for stepping up to help make this happen and I look forward to meeting all of you!

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If anyone is interested, please feel free to PM me your info.

[Fortress of Tranquility]

Colorado Event
hosted by


Toyota Territory Off-Road Association – Colorado Chapter


Colorado4Wheelers


Colorado4x4.org


Front Range 4x4



Event Date, Time and Location


July 18, 2009


10:00 am to 7:00pm


Buena Vista Area



Event Schedule


10:00am


Meet & Greet and staging at Chinaman Gulch/BV Carnage trailhead


11:00am


Trail teams depart for trails


4:30pm


Trail teams return to staging


5:00pm


BBQ for all participants

Trails

Boulder Mountain and/or Mount Antero (Easy, rated 3-4)
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=52
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=51

Chinaman Gulch (Moderate to Difficult, rated 4-7)
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=1

Grizzly Lake and/or Iron Chest (Moderate to Difficult, rated 5-8)
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=55
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=8


Mount Princeton (Easy, rated 2-3)
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=121

Tincup Pass (Easy, rated 2-3)
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=120


This is where we will be meeting at 10am Saturday morning:

This is the staging area for both Chinaman Gulch and BV Carnage. Google Map link:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=&daddr=38.792313,-106.085851&hl=en&geocode=&mra=mi&mrsp=0&sz=16&sll=38.792226,-106.079564&sspn=0.012711,0.027895&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16

We will begin the day with a general meet and greet to make sure everyone has what they need and rigs staged for each of the five (5) trail options. We will have some light refreshments, but I highly recommend a good breakfast before arriving.

We will be running five (5) teams from this staging site to each of the fiver trail options listed above. The folks that opt for Chinaman Gulch will have plenty of time to play on obstacles and check out any action that might be occurring on BV Carnage. It is likely that other trails will have the opportunity to return to the staging area mid-afternoon and Chinaman Gulch and BV Carnage will be a further option if they want more wheel time.

We will have a brief lunch while on the trail. Trail leaders and gunners will have water and some other beverages and snack. If we can swing it, we’ll provide lunch for everyone, but more to follow on that later.

We will return to the staging area after the trail runs and have prepared a “Molly-food” BBQ for all participants. You will want to be there to understand what we mean by Molly-food!


Getting There

These are the two primary routes to the staging site, one from Denver, the other from Colorado Springs:

Via 285, drive time and distance approximately 90 miles in 2 hours:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Denver,+CO&daddr=Unknown+road&hl=en&geocode=%3BFW_sTwId20Gt-Q&mra=ls&sll=38.792226,-106.079564&sspn=0.012711,0.027895&ie=UTF8&z=9

Via Hwy 24, drive time and distance approximately 125 miles in 2.5 hours:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Colorado+Springs,+Colorado&daddr=Unknown+road&hl=en&geocode=%3BFW_sTwId20Gt-Q&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=38.838638,-105.325928&sspn=0.812952,1.785278&ie=UTF8&ll=38.919887,-105.46051&spn=0.812023,1.785278&z=10

Vehicle qualifications for moderate to difficult trails:

A good stock rig can make it on all of these trails, but for the purposes of avoiding delays and minimizing potential damage, I recommend the following basics:

33” tires (something that can take abuse, the talus and shale is unforgiving of sidewalls)
Skid plates (factory will suffice)
Sliders
Front and rear tow points
Rear locker
Basic recovery gear suitable for your vehicle
All-weather clothing (literally, it can be 80+ degrees, then snowing in the same day!)

Because of the amount of time we will spend in the rigs with minimal down time, a CB will be essential if you want to keep up with what’s next, when we’re stopping, potty breaks, and details about the trail as we progress (e.g. watch out for the pumpkin buster there… this is freakin’ beautiful!… I gotta pee…)

Camping

National Forest camping:

http://www.forestcamping.com/dow/rockymtn/si.htm

This is in Chaffee County, San Isabel National Forest, so you could check with the San Isabel Rangers: Salida Ranger District - 325 W. Rainbow Blvd, Salida, CO (719) 539-3591

BLM camping in the area:

http://parks.state.co.us/Parks/ArkansasHeadwaters/MapsandDirections/

Lodging

There are a number of lodging options in Buena Vista and surrounding areas:

http://www.buenavistacolorado.org/directory/viewcatbuslist.asp?c=Lodging

http://www.coloradodirectory.com/buenavista/

[Chris]

Thanks for the details Eric! Nice to see it's so well planned!

:cheers:

[Pathrat]

Curious to hear from those in our group who will be participating what trails you all are thinking of running. I am leaning towards Tin Cup. I hear it is quite scenic and I have not been there.

Erik, I don't have experience on these trails so I have to decline the lead/gunner positions. I imagine the other people going will be more experienced with built rigs. If not, then I would consider lead. Good old GPS.

[Fortress of Tranquility]

Curious to hear from those in our group who will be participating what trails you all are thinking of running. I am leaning towards Tin Cup. I hear it is quite scenic and I have not been there.

Erik, I don't have experience on these trails so I have to decline the lead/gunner positions.

No worries, just having you there will be a great help. I'll put you down for Mount Antero for the time being. You'll have a fellow FJ and FR4x4 compatriot in RockyMtnHigh, who is leading that trail :)

[Pathrat]

No worries, just having you there will be a great help. I'll put you down for Mount Antero for the time being. You'll have a fellow FJ and FR4x4 compatriot in RockyMtnHigh, who is leading that trail :)

Very cool. I hope we can take the left trail but we will see when we get there.

[WINKY]

i would like to do something like this, as a veteran myself i will stand by my brothers in arms and help them enjoy life after getting out. What can i do? I dont have rails on my truck or a locker so i would be out of crawling, but i can run trails :)

[Pathrat]

i would like to do something like this, as a veteran myself i will stand by my brothers in arms and help them enjoy life after getting out. What can i do? I dont have rails on my truck or a locker so i would be out of crawling, but i can run trails :)

You should be able to run Tin Cup

[RockyMtnHigh]

i would like to do something like this, as a veteran myself i will stand by my brothers in arms and help them enjoy life after getting out. What can i do? I dont have rails on my truck or a locker so i would be out of crawling, but i can run trails :)


You should be able to run Tin Cup

Tin Cup would be a good one, I haven't done Mt Antero so I couldn't tell you how tight some of the switch backs are and if a long wheel base would have issues, but I have done Boulder Mountain and I am positive you could handle that as well.

I should have opened another thread on this, but I didn't want to clutter the forum with muliple threads and figured what a better place for it then the "WFTW Wants You" thread, but please direct all PMs and questions to me, Eric is extremely busy working on other areas of this event as well as his normal day to day life.

My name is Jock aka RockyMtnhigh and sometimes known as Stick in the Mud (long kind of embarassing story which involved a tree stump and my beads) Each of the organizers have adopted a forum to help Eric out, I am the Treasurer for the Colorado event and I have adopted this forum as mine to update and answer questions.

[WINKY]

So i am going seeing that i am free on this day from work and have pm'd jack on this. I cant WAIT!!

[Brody]

I'll be there and I think that LaDawn will be, too.

I don't really care what trail I do so long as it is a little challenging and scenic. I also don't care if I am designated a leader, tail gunner or just part of the pack. Bottom line, if there is a place I am needed more than another, just sign me up for that place.

If LaDawn doesn't go, I will have a spot in my rig for a rider. As it is, it is strictly a two person rig. I will post up as we get closer. It depends on her work schedule as to whether she goes or not.

[Pathrat]

Well men and women, how about we do the Tin Cup trail in this event?

[Chris]

My name is Jock aka RockyMtnhigh and sometimes known as Stick in the Mud (long kind of embarassing story which involved a tree stump and my beads) Each of the organizers have adopted a forum to help Eric out, I am the Treasurer for the Colorado event and I have adopted this forum as mine to update and answer questions.

Hi Jock, good idea to adopt a forum this way. I tried keeping up with what was going on but wasn't able as i suppose others discovered as well.

I'd like to suggest that you give us a recap and what we can do as a club for Wheelers of the Wounded.

:thunb:

[Roostercruiser]

im still in i can do tin cup also. i called fortres about a month ago and left a message to find out more details but never got a call back. my number is 303 472 6873 if someone can call me and fill me in on the details

[RockyMtnHigh]

Well men and women, how about we do the Tin Cup trail in this event?

I do believe we are still looking for trail leaders for it.


Hi Jock, good idea to adopt a forum this way. I tried keeping up with what was going on but wasn't able as i suppose others discovered as well.

I'd like to suggest that you give us a recap and what we can do as a club for Wheelers of the Wounded.

:thunb:

Shoot me a PM with at least your first name (yours is obvious), a phone number and an email address. I will coordinate with Eric and see where he needs help. Probably wouldn't hurt to know if you'll have extra seats available as well.

[RockyMtnHigh]

im still in i can do tin cup also. i called fortres about a month ago and left a message to find out more details but never got a call back. my number is 303 472 6873 if someone can call me and fill me in on the details

What's a good time?

[Roostercruiser]

What's a good time?

tuesday morning . thanks jock

[WINKY]

i had to contact the webmaster as i cant seem to get the com[lpetion emial for registration on the website. They know im going but i dont know where my spot will be.

[Chris]

I do believe we are still looking for trail leaders for it.



Shoot me a PM with at least your first name (yours is obvious), a phone number and an email address. I will coordinate with Eric and see where he needs help. Probably wouldn't hurt to know if you'll have extra seats available as well.

Done, thanks Jock.

[Fortress of Tranquility]

I'll be there and I think that LaDawn will be, too.

I don't really care what trail I do so long as it is a little challenging and scenic. I also don't care if I am designated a leader, tail gunner or just part of the pack. Bottom line, if there is a place I am needed more than another, just sign me up for that place.

If LaDawn doesn't go, I will have a spot in my rig for a rider. As it is, it is strictly a two person rig. I will post up as we get closer. It depends on her work schedule as to whether she goes or not.

Pete, for now I've slotted you in on Mount Antero, but I might take you up on your offer of flexibility as we see what/who we have to work with.


Hi Jock, good idea to adopt a forum this way. I tried keeping up with what was going on but wasn't able as i suppose others discovered as well.

I'd like to suggest that you give us a recap and what we can do as a club for Wheelers of the Wounded.

:thunb:

Chris, thanks for keeping in the loop! Right now our primary focus is getting the word out to wounded veterans. This is also the most difficult task we have due to privacy, policy, etc. If anyone knows an "in", please let us know and we'll hook you up with the other folks who are doing the same.

We are also looking for sponsors to provide supplies, raffle prizes, or simple word of mouth.


im still in i can do tin cup also. i called fortres about a month ago and left a message to find out more details but never got a call back. my number is 303 472 6873 if someone can call me and fill me in on the details

Sorry, Owen, I was on the run when I got your message and lost the number in transit. I know Jock will get you up to speed. Sorry for the mishap. Eric

[Brody]

Sent an e mail out..

Just keep me posted as to if I am expected to provide a seat for a passenger or not so that I can coordinate with LaDawn. She'll be cool with it, I am sure. Keep in mind that getting into and out of my heap is a chore..anyone missing an arm or leg could do it with a little help, but if someone is missing both it would be next to impossible. What trail I do doesn't matter like I said..

[RockyMtnHigh]

Will do Brody!


tuesday morning . thanks jock

I tried calling you just now left VM, shoot me a PM if you get a chance, I am off to bed.

[Pathrat]

I might have an in with an orthopedic surgeon...when he gets back I will mention it.

[RockyMtnHigh]

I might have an in with an orthopedic surgeon...when he gets back I will mention it.

So whatever happened? Is he good to go?

A few of you asked what you can do to help, I got something and it will help in a big way, now that we've got the bank account going and paypal next week I would like to start getting donations together, not just from you but also from your friends and/or co-workers. Get the word out there please, we got lots of expenses to cover and any amount will greatly help.

Just as soon as I get the paypal account set up, I myself will be sending an email out here at work on the distro list.

[dr350jja]

So i am going seeing that i am free on this day from work and have pm'd jack on this. I cant WAIT!!


Awesome Randy...be great to 'wheel with ya on Tin Cup Pass for this event! Looking forward to it.

Jim

http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=120

[Chris]

I haven't heard any differently that there are more volunteers than vets, anyone have an update?

[RockyMtnHigh]

I haven't heard anything different myself as of yet.

[dr350jja]

Yes, it seems to be much more difficult finding wounded warriors that would like to participate in the event, since the organizations are not allowed to give us their info. So, we somehow need to make the event info (ie: web site info and flyers) available to each organization and in turn, hope that they disseminate the info and wounded warriors contact us. Doesn't exactly seem like the best way to go about it, but if anyone has some input to offer, just speak out...I'm listening.



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Re: Wheelers for the Wounded Suggestions



We hope to have the WFTW flyers printed up shortly. At that point, I will look to circulate them, where ever possible. So, your help then would surely be appreciated.

So far we have been in contact with the local American Legion Post, www.freedomisnotfree.com (http://www.freedomisnotfree.com/), Ft. Carson public affairs/wounded soldier and family info, National and local Easter Seals offices, and various individuals that have connections. If there is anyone here that can help out with this task, please let me know.

Thank you all, :)

Jim Augliera

[Chris]

How about tv/radio PSA announcements? I don't know anything about how to get that done but should be good material for them.

[Pathrat]

So whatever happened? Is he good to go?

.

The vet I had in mind when contacting this surgeon has gone back to his home base back east. He did say he would mention our run to his colleagues and I would be contacted if anyone had a candidate. So far, there have been no responses.

[WINKY]

How about tv/radio PSA announcements? I don't know anything about how to get that done but should be good material for them.



i know radio stations would be all over this like flies on crap especially since it is not fpr profit and it is all volunteer, all the vets need to do is show up and be treated to a good time!

[Pathrat]

I just thought of something...I can get on my hospital web email and send out a mass post with a brief description and contact info. If it isn't allowed, I will find out after the fact. :D

I can do the brief write up and have them email me. Once I get email replies from anyone who knows of a vet who wants to participate, to whom should I forward it to? I know I have asked before, and I have Erik's email, should I send to him or someone else? Please just PM me with the appropriate person.

[dr350jja]

I just thought of something...I can get on my hospital web email and send out a mass post with a brief description and contact info. If it isn't allowed, I will find out after the fact. :D



Reminds me of what a wise man once told me; "it's easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission". :D

I kinda believe it :rolleyes:

[Jeepkid]

hey I was looking for something in the ways of volunteering wouldn't mind helpin out

[Chris]

I haven't heard any differently that there are more volunteers than vets, anyone have an update?


I haven't heard anything different myself as of yet.

Anything new on vets participating? It's coming up on our calendar and I'd like to know if we really need to plan on it or if it's going to end up being a bunch of folks wheeling with not vets. :erm:

[Pathrat]

I plan on putting up some flyers when they are ready.

[WINKY]

this week i will try to get to the vet affair office here and see who i can talk into getting this to those that need to see it. they close when i wake up... bankers hours..:mad:

[Fortress of Tranquility]

Sorry folks, I've been trying to keep up, so here goes...


i know radio stations would be all over this like flies on crap especially since it is not fpr profit and it is all volunteer, all the vets need to do is show up and be treated to a good time!

We need to be careful how we advertise this. We will have limited resources and need a somewhat accurate count of who's showing so we can be prepared. If the timing is right, we'll definitely use this resource!


I just thought of something...I can get on my hospital web email and send out a mass post with a brief description and contact info. If it isn't allowed, I will find out after the fact. :D

I can do the brief write up and have them email me. Once I get email replies from anyone who knows of a vet who wants to participate, to whom should I forward it to? I know I have asked before, and I have Erik's email, should I send to him or someone else? Please just PM me with the appropriate person.


Feel free :D Send them to Jim A since he's been kind enough to volunteer to coordinate with the wounded veterans.


hey I was looking for something in the ways of volunteering wouldn't mind helpin out

Shoot me an email and let me know what you have in mind!

fjcruzer123@yahoo.com

[Fortress of Tranquility]

Anything new on vets participating? It's coming up on our calendar and I'd like to know if we really need to plan on it or if it's going to end up being a bunch of folks wheeling with not vets. :erm:

I do not have an accurate count, but I believe about a third of the people driving their own rigs at this point are DAVs or have family/spouse that are. We're still trying to crack the bureaucratic shell, so to speak.

[Chris]

I do not have an accurate count, but I believe about a third of the people driving their own rigs at this point are DAVs or have family/spouse that are. We're still trying to crack the bureaucratic shell, so to speak.

Okay, sounds good. Thanks for the update and we'll look forward to details as they become available. :thunb:

[Pathrat]

Feel free :D Send them to Jim A since he's been kind enough to volunteer to coordinate with the wounded veterans.

Shoot me an email and let me know what you have in mind!

fjcruzer123@yahoo.com

I was waiting for the final edit of the flyer so I could put up a short and sweet post based on that. I know you guys are working on it. I am pretty sure Jim is going to be sending me a copy.

[dr350jja]

I am pretty sure Jim is going to be sending me a copy.

You bet. Actually, I'll be sending many people flyers, as soon as I get them :rolleyes:

Thanks everyone for wanting to help out, much appreciated.

[Fortress of Tranquility]

"T-shirts! T-shirts! Get your one-of-a-kind Wheelers-for-the-Wounded shirts right here!!"

We have a screen shop on standby and would like to make the first run of t-shirts for this event. In order to do so we need 40 pre-ordered and paid for t-shirts. It will take approximately 2 weeks for the order to be processed and shirts delivered, so we would like the pre-orders to be in by Sunday, May 31st. We will still be able to take orders for additional shirts after that, but need the initial run to start ASAP!

Shirts are $20 each, and each pre-order will also receive an original Wheelers for the Wounded 5" x 5" window sticker for FREE!

Orders and payments can be made via PayPal to:

wftwstickers@gmail.com

Please provide the following information in the email/detail window at the bottom of the screen:

Full name
Each shirt and size ordered
Contact phone
Email address

You may also pay by check. Make checks payable to COTTORA and mail to:

Jock Timmons
17093 E. 102nd Ave
Commerce City, CO. 80022.

You can either include a note with the above information, or send an email to wftwstickers@gmail.com with the details.

We will deliver t-shirts at either the Buena Vista pre-run on June 21st, or at the Toyota Meet at the Castle Rock Factory Outlet stores on June 28th. We might also be hosting another charity event in mid-June that would be another opportunity.

All proceeds will go to funding the Colorado event food, permits, insurance, and other necessary costs, with the remainder helping Jason stay on the road and fund future Wheelers for the Wounded events.

Thank you all and enjoy the cool duds!

Eric Ross

Front
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/fjcruzer123/wftw/sticker-tee4.jpg

Back
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/fjcruzer123/wftw/back.jpg

Sticker
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/fjcruzer123/wftw/WFTWSymbol.jpg

[RockyMtnHigh]

That's right guys we're ready for the orders! PM me with any questions!

Just to be clear as we had a question come up already, the first image is the front of the T-shirt it will be 5x5" and be dead center of the chest, the second image is the back and the third is the sticker.

The shirt will be done in navy blue as well.

[hubbazoot]

I'm in. I have plenty of room and would love to help out.

[Brody]

[QUOTE=Fortress of Tranquility;38944]
We will deliver t-shirts at either the Buena Vista pre-run on June 21st, or at the Toyota Meet at the Castle Rock Factory Outlet stores on June 28th.
Thank you all and enjoy the cool duds!

Neither the Toyota event or the pre run are posted on the calendar. We need to get these posted up along with times, what trail(s) is going to be run, and meeting place.

More information on the Toyota event would be good too, as this is the first I have heard of it.

Thanks

[dr350jja]

Got my t-shirt order in. Thanks Jock and Eric for all your time and effort, looks good.

[gm4x4lover]

i signed up but havent been assigned any where yet.

[WINKY]

send him an email advising on what you want to run. he will get back to you in a while, hes a busy man :)

[RockyMtnHigh]

If you sent Eric an email he's in Moab, I think he's coming back tomorrow.

[4x4jsimps]

someone can have my passenger seat too

[dr350jja]

i signed up but havent been assigned any where yet.


which trail did you want to run?

Trails

Boulder Mountain and/or Mount Antero (Easy, rated 3-4)
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=52
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=51

Chinaman Gulch (Moderate to Difficult, rated 4-7)
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=1

Grizzly Lake and/or Iron Chest (Moderate to Difficult, rated 5-8)
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=55
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=8


Mount Princeton (Easy, rated 2-3)
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=121

Tincup Pass (Easy, rated 2-3)
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=120

[gm4x4lover]

I am good where ever they need me. I have done most all of those so no biggie. I can also spot, shuttle, or what ever just want to lend a helping hand. Also have 2 rigs to wheel with and a pimpin van to shuttle people with if needed.

[dr350jja]

I am good where ever they need me. I have done most all of those so no biggie. I can also spot, shuttle, or what ever just want to lend a helping hand. Also have 2 rigs to wheel with and a pimpin van to shuttle people with if needed.


Wow, sounds like you've got a lot of the bases covered! Good deal :thunb:

[hubbazoot]

I would like to run grizzly lake or iron chest.

[Funrover]

I would like to run grizzly lake or iron chest.

Griz is a beautiful trail!

[Chris]

I've heard that but couldn't make it past the first obstacle when I tried. I did manage to break my bumper though so I guess I tried. :lol:

Lousy appraoch angle on my truck. :(

[Roostercruiser]

I've heard that but couldn't make it past the first obstacle when I tried. I did manage to break my bumper though so I guess I tried. :lol:

Lousy appraoch angle on my truck. :(


still better than mine. espaiclly the departure angle ive got 2+ feet:eek:

[gm4x4lover]

still better than mine. espaiclly the departure angle ive got 2+ feet:eek:


mine is the same way except the 2+ feet is at or above the roof line of most mid size cars. :eek:

[hubbazoot]

mine is the same way except the 2+ feet is at or above the roof line of most mid size cars. :eek:
Mine's about to get a whole lot better... I'm lifting the back by 4" :D
The front is coming up another 2" to level it (back is sagging pretty hardcore)

[hubbazoot]

So what's the official or "official" sign-up procedure and such?

[dr350jja]

So what's the official or "official" sign-up procedure and such?


Just send an email to Eric Ross fjcruzer123@yahoo.com (fjcruzer123@yahoo.com) and let him know you would like to help out with this event.

[tradedoldladyforajeep]

I have a passenger seat or two that I would be honored it offer up for these true American Heros

[dr350jja]

I have a passenger seat or two that I would be honored it offer up for these true American Heros


Glad to have you help out. Send an email to fjcruzer123@yahoo.com (fjcruzer123@yahoo.com) , with all your info :thunb:

[Pathrat]

So, do we have vets riding with us yet?

[dr350jja]

So, do we have vets riding with us yet?





Eric actually keeps the list of who replied and will attend. However, something to keep in mind is: on the fliers sent out, we did NOT require prior registration for anyone that wants to attend, so it is possible we may have many show up the day of event!!!! :eek:

[gm4x4lover]

Do we know what trail we are going to run? I need to put the appropriate tires and wheels on for the trip.

[WINKY]

check the site the info is on there. Also you want to email showing your availability and any open seats. trails are mild to very hard.

[gm4x4lover]

I did, they said to check in when we got there. I was wondering if the group (fr4x4) was going to run a specific trail or trails.

[Brody]

Nick

As far as I know, the organizers are going to put people where they fit in. They asked me what trails I wanted to run and I told them anything that really qualifies as a 4x4 trail instead of a bumpy dirt road drive with views.

Front Range 4x4, as a group, isn't going to run specific trails as this isn't one of our Front Range posted trail runs, nor are we acting as hosts for the event. We are merely one of the sponsors.

I also told them that I may or may not have a seat dependent on if LaDawn goes or not..

Hope this answers your question, as that is what I am going to do when I get there..just check in..

[WINKY]

I did, they said to check in when we got there. I was wondering if the group (fr4x4) was going to run a specific trail or trails.



look at post number 28 it has all the info there as to what trails are being run. I emailed them and told them what my truck can do, they will put me where they need me based on my capability. They should do the same fer ya :)

[RockyMtnHigh]

Hello all!

We have finalized our plans for the event and the attached flier (which hopefully you have seen) has the info. BLM was gracious enough to forgive the permit requirement, but we did sign a Letter of Agreement with a few stipulations:

1. All sites are filled on a "first come, first served" basis. Plan ahead to assure that your group can secure a spot without interfering with other visitors. Parking is limited to 30 vehicles in the parking area only. Access for the public is required, roads cannot be blocked.

2. No Campfires for this event.

3. Proper disposal of human waste is critical. At your activity this will be accomplished by PROVIDING TEMPORARY TOILET FACILITIES.

4. Help us clean up public lands by REMOVING ALL TRASH. Picking up trash left by less thoughtful people helps maintain the scenic beauty of your public lands.

5. If any directional signs are erected as part of this activity, they will be removed at the completion of the activity.

6. There are certain natural phenomenon that could be encountered that present risks which the participants assume. All participants must be advised of conditions which might be encountered.

7. Nothing in this agreement shall be construed to imply permission to build any structure or conduct any activity not specifically named.

8. Disorderly or otherwise objectionable conduct such as harassment of wildlife, livestock, or other lawful users of public land will not be tolerated and could be the basis for denial of similar agreements in the future.

9. Precautions must be made to protect natural resource values, cultural or historic objects, aesthetic values, and any improvement on public lands.

10. If there is any question concerning regulations on public lands, please contact our office immediately.

11. This agreement is not an authorization to use public lands. Failure to abide by all activity parameters in this agreement may result in permits being required for future activities.

__________________________________________________ ________________________________________

Regarding wounded veteran riders: we have not had any direct response to our offer/request for riders for this event. That does not mean we will not have any, just that at this time, we do not know if, or how many potential riders may decide to join us. As a result, the staging in the morning will be on the fly. We will be set up at the staging are at 9:00am and encourage as many folks as can to be there around that time. We will have some light refreshments in the morning and will be organizing the trail runs/riders.

Staging Area: Right now I have 7-10 people helping at the staging area. If there are more folks who are willing to help get us organized in the morning and with the BBQ/cleanup in the evening, I would rather be over-staffed than under, so let me know!

Jason Havlik: As some of you may have heard, Jason, the founder of this event, ran into financial troubles while traversing the nation to promote this event. As of now, he will not be attending our event. If you have any questions or concerns, fell free to contact me directly.

These are the folks who have confirmed that they will be participating. I would appreciate a final confirmation email from each of you just to make sure we’re on the same page. I’ll get with those of you that have not selected a trail in the next week to let you know the plan.

Bill Morgan
Bob Zupan
Brad Cook
Brian Terpstra
Carlos Irriborro
Chris Denton
Crhis Malloy
Dave Kaiser
Don Goldston
Doug Huckaba
Eric & Katherine Ross
Eric Grant
Evolution 4x4
Evolution 4x4
Harold Off
Isaac Bohrer
Jason Havlik
Jim Augliera
Jim Bailey
Jock Timmons
Jody Oneal
John Clark
Kevin and Susan Geiger
Kirk Macklem
Kyle McGraw
Larry Schultz
Layton Bersch
Michael Castell
Michael Castell
Mike Falkner
Mike Scott
Molly Houck
Nancy Bailey
Nate Wass
Nicholas Boisvert
Nicholas Boisvert
Pete Brody
Randy
Scott Macon
Scott Riley
Shawn Benson
Tim and Alissa Owsley
Todd Stull
Troy Gorrel
Tyson and Leanne Schmidt

If you are not on this list, please let me know ASAP!! From the get-go we had 77 people express interest and would still like to accommodate everyone who would like to attend. If you cannot attend, please let me know that as well. I’m sure you’ve noticed that we will have more than 30 vehicles attending, but we have a logistical plan to mitigate this, so please work with us when you arrive.

Several of us will be arriving on Friday and Friday night so we can get an early start Saturday morning. If possible, I will likely be camping at the staging area with a couple of our coordinators.


Thanks again to all of you for supporting this great cause. We’re all looking forward to a great day!

Eric Ross

PS Here is a link to a map showing exactly where the staging are is:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=chinaman+gulch+trailhead,+co&sll=38.817241,-106.098747&sspn=0.098306,0.222988&ie=UTF8&t=p&ll=38.816706,-106.098747&spn=0.109809,0.264187&z=13&iwloc=A

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/fjcruzer123/wftw/WFTWeventflierfinal.jpg

[Funrover]

I still don't know if I can go.. I wish I could but it looks like a no

[Pathrat]

Good to see so many participants. I asked around, and sorry, it is hard to work around the HIPPA requirements (medical privacy)

[Brody]

Good to see so many participants. I asked around, and sorry, it is hard to work around the HIPPA requirements (medical privacy)

What is this about, Pathrat? I don't recall seeing anything about HIPPA...

[RockyMtnHigh]

What is this about, Pathrat? I don't recall seeing anything about HIPPA...

I believe she was checking to see if she could find us some wounded veterans for the event.

[Pathrat]

What is this about, Pathrat? I don't recall seeing anything about HIPPA...


I believe she was checking to see if she could find us some wounded veterans for the event.

The HIPPA regulations make even inquiries difficult because you are essentially identifying someone by their private and protected medical information, no matter how innocuous or good the cause.

[WINKY]

i still think announcing it over the raido or going public to get the word out to those that need to hear it would have gotten more vets to know about this or friends of vets.. not my call though :(

[RockyMtnHigh]

i still think announcing it over the raido or going public to get the word out to those that need to hear it would have gotten more vets to know about this or friends of vets.. not my call though :(

There is a local radio announcement being made, not sure when yet.

[WINKY]

hope it will help, seems too little to late..? I would just hate to show up and one or 2 vets are there when there are way more that could enjoy something like this... not sure of the count on how many vets are actually showing up though.

either way im happy to be part of this.

[Brody]

The HIPPA regulations make even inquiries difficult because you are essentially identifying someone by their private and protected medical information, no matter how innocuous or good the cause.

Thanks! For a moment it sounded like something that you would see posted in the rules and regulations at a weight loss clinic run by Lawrence Welk(a)....

And Randy, I agree about the vets. I would be nice if there was a bigger turnout of vets than actual drivers. Anyone from my generation knows what happened to the Vietnam vets when they returned from the war...they were basically ignored, then everyone tried to push them into the background as so much forgotten rubbish...including the government..

Whatever my thoughts are on the war and the 'why' we are involved or how we are dealing with it (let's hear it for turning the Middle East into a searing hot shiny glass parking lot!), these are still our guys over there and deserve our respect and show of support.

[WINKY]

(let's hear it for turning the Middle East into a searing hot shiny glass parking lot!)


ill help ya push the button man...:mad:

[Brody]

Yes indeed...the world would be a better place. What a bunch of damn near prehistoric clowns over there. When they discovered oil underneath them and realized the amount of dollars and power it could bring in, it was like the Beverly Hillbillies winning the lotto....with the same inbred mentality, coupled with relegious fanaticism...a very bad combination in anyone's book....as we are finding out...

[WINKY]

the only way to win a war against an enemy, whom all of them want and are willing to die for their cause, is to eradicate them all at once. Push the button walk away be done with them.

[Brody]

And we don't need then over here in the good 'ol USA either, so we would need to make arrangements for transport back to their home country before we pushed the button.

No sense in leaving little breeders around to cause problems in the future....be kinda like keeping vicious dogs around...

[Pathrat]

Yes indeed...the world would be a better place. What a bunch of damn near prehistoric clowns over there. When they discovered oil underneath them and realized the amount of dollars and power it could bring in, it was like the Beverly Hillbillies winning the lotto....with the same inbred mentality, coupled with relegious fanaticism...a very bad combination in anyone's book....as we are finding out...

I do like your summation. I am sure there are people in the region who are decent people who want to live peacefully with their families, however, they don't seem to be in charge. There needs to be a couple hundred years of catch-up to such neat, modern things like letting girls read and not stoning women for 'dishonoring' the family name.

[WINKY]

I do like your summation. I am sure there are people in the region who are decent people who want to live peacefully with their families, however, they don't seem to be in charge. There needs to be a couple hundred years of catch-up to such neat, modern things like letting girls read and not stoning women for 'dishonoring' the family name.

+1000000

[RockyMtnHigh]

hope it will help, seems too little to late..?

Well it was brought to our attention that the local station wanted to do it on our last visit in Buena Vista. Prior to that the local stations here in Denver didn't pan out or were unresponsive to our requests for support. I won't go into specifics, but one of them has a morning talk show host who claims to be a wheeler and would not answer email or voice mail, so I heard.

Is it too late? Who knows.

If we get just a few wounded veterans show up to this one, we'll make the best of it and push harder next year.

[WINKY]

understood, we did what we could. :thunb:

[Brody]

I do like your summation. I am sure there are people in the region who are decent people who want to live peacefully with their families, however, they don't seem to be in charge. There needs to be a couple hundred years of catch-up to such neat, modern things like letting girls read and not stoning women for 'dishonoring' the family name.

And moving beyond the point of wiping with their left hand in lieu of toilet paper. It takes a very civilized society to recognize this...

Ever see Kite Runner? Great movie and a great book. Shows just how jacked up things are over there as if we didn't already know.

[gm4x4lover]

I am out. Looks like i am going to need to get another motor for the burby.

[dr350jja]

I am out. Looks like i am going to need to get another motor for the burby.


...that doesn't sound good!

[dr350jja]

This is actually going to be a one day event, taking place on July 18th, near Buena Vista. Many peeps will be getting there Friday, and camping that night.

[RockyMtnHigh]

Alright just a reminder to everyone, this is happening this weekend. A few of us are driving up Friday, setting up at the staging area and camping. May even try to squeeze in OCG at some point Friday.

I don't see this at the top anymore for some reason, but like Jim pointed out this is a one day deal Saturday the 18th.

Look forward to seeing you guys out there.

[Chris]

I don't see this at the top anymore for some reason, but like Jim pointed out this is a one day deal Saturday the 18th.


Sorry about that and thanks for mentioning it! I added a run right after it and missed a " making it not appear.

It's fixed! :thunb:

[WINKY]

im still there man!

[RockyMtnHigh]

Thanks Chris, just an FYI for everyone, if you're headed up on Friday and want to hang/camp with the rest of us, we'll be at the staging area which is the entrance to Carnage. From the looks of it after getting everything loaded tomorrow morning we should be there between 2:30-3:00PM.

My cell number is three zero three, four seven six, zero two one four.

[BlackRubi]

I planned on going to this event. That is, until I obliterated my axle shaft. It looked like it was going to be a good time with a lot of good runs.

[Fortress of Tranquility]

I planned on going to this event. That is, until I obliterated my axle shaft. It looked like it was going to be a good time with a lot of good runs.

Sorry we missed you, it went really well and we look forward to doing it again next year.