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Smash
July 20th, 2009, 08:31 AM
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Talk about frustrating....

The trail wasn't too hard.
My clearance was good.

Ya wanna know what made me turn around? IT WAS TOO STEEP. No really. Got to this point, which we had to make a serious run at, then couldn't get going again. I hate my freakin manual transmission. :rant:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2416.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2419.jpg

Really was the upper edge of the steepness that my transmission can handle:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2420.jpg

On a good note this might actually be helpful: for the stockers without lockers ride - is it as steep as this? If so I'm out. Also, this trail would've been too much for Subacool's Outback in numerous places, doesn't have the clearance. He might be able to do it, but his wife Lisa would kill him (it's her car). So, can I do stockers without lockers?

More photos and such to come shortly. Gotta get a few things done first.

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 08:36 AM
Pics never do justice, hard to say. To me that looks almost flat, but I figure it's worse than I-70 right?

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 08:49 AM
It was pretty steep, and long. If I can get a running start I can make it up short stuff. But this just kept going and going and going... Talk about a clutch fryer. I can't afford a new clutch, nor do I think it's worth it, so we turned around.

I'm hoping someone who's been on Mt. Antero can give me an idea about the newbie run (stockers without lockers).

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 09:07 AM
I know Red Cone would be too much based on that pic

Chris
July 20th, 2009, 09:10 AM
Gee, sorry about that! I was sure you could to that road.

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 09:18 AM
FunRover - yeah no way I'm gonna attempt Red Cone.

Chris - hey thanks for the suggestion. If I had an automatic, I would've been able to do it.

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 10:05 AM
Anyways, we wanted to try a new spot, so off we go to Mt. Antero. Was pretty sure by the advice given here and Wells' book that we'd be fine. I was wrong. Grumble.

I think I'm still upset...

Ok, moving on. It was a beautiful area! We got lots of looks. There were a few folks hanging out at the stream crossing soaking their feet on our way back down. They did triple takes. "No, that is a Subaru!" They raised their beers in a toast to "my ballsiness" as they put it. That helped ease my frustration a bit.

Enough talk, on to photos (videos are still loading, I'll put them up next):

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2396.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2400.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2412.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2409.jpg

Lunch stop was great:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2426.jpg

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 10:17 AM
Luke enjoyed the break:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2424.jpg


Kodi was having too much fun running around (and he feels it now, poor old guy):

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2432.jpg

view from lunch:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2427.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2425.jpg


Found a rock to pose on to further rebuild our decimated egos:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2441.jpg


http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2437.jpg

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 10:17 AM
Always the ham....


http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2438.jpg?t=1248106709


Headed back down:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2442-1.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2444.jpg

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 10:23 AM
Beautiful shots! We almost did that trail when we were up there, wish we would have now

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 10:26 AM
Well, we still didn't have enough fun. Yeah, it was 5pm. Yeah it's a 2.5-3 hour drive home. But hey, the sun's out til 8pm! Plenty of time. So off we go to fourmile, an area closeby that we both know fairly well and isn't difficult. Karla decides to give a new idea of hers a try. Like she said, "I'm never riding in a car offroading ever again!!" http://www.offroadsubarus.com/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2448.jpg


http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2450.jpg


http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2453.jpg


Site of my first trail damage in quite a while! This road ended up being a dead end. Whoops. So I had to back out, proved to be a bit tricky with the larger rocks and dips around. There goes the mudflap... Because it about took my bumper with it I'm considering taking them off entirely.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff182/deesmotorhead/Mt%20Antero%20and%20Fourmile%20July%2018/IMG_2455.jpg


Videos coming next. Karla was really cracking herself up up there! All I can hear was giggling.... :lol:

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 10:38 AM
LMAO!!! Next time the roof rack idea comes up I have a seat in my rover just for that... Video has been taken from that vantage point...
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c353/Funrover/IMG_9295.jpg

Man Jerk
July 20th, 2009, 10:44 AM
Here was my view of Antero on Saturday. From Tabeguache Peak. 11 hour hike

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 10:56 AM
Here was my view of Antero on Saturday. From Tabeguache Peak. 11 hour hike

How techy is that hike?

Man Jerk
July 20th, 2009, 11:00 AM
It's not. There is a lot of hopping from rock to rock, but no climbing. You actually have to climb Shavano, then come down the back side. Then you have to go up and over Shavano again. The entire summit of both peaks are covered in rocks/boulders. Its 11.25 miles and took us 11 hours.

A lot of the trail is covered in rocks and that got old quick. I wouldn't do it twice.

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 11:02 AM
Thanks.

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 11:02 AM
FunRover - hehehehe nice!! Did you create a ratchet seatbelt?!?

ManJerk - Man nice shot. I was hoping to be able to see that!

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 11:15 AM
FunRover - hehehehe nice!! Did you create a ratchet seatbelt?!?


Helps hold ya in place while video-ing. Also comes with the seat he is on from REI haha

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 11:16 AM
Hehe, I love the fold chairs like you've got up there. Hadn't thought of the ratchet. I'll see what Karla thinks!

4Runninfun
July 20th, 2009, 11:16 AM
Smash couple years ago my parents tried tincup in their '00 outback, and while it didn't get as steep it was just rocky enough that they couldn't go slow enough without a low range and/or burning up the clutch. I really dont understand why subaru doesn't offer a low range anymore. We had two '85 wagons with that low range and unless you high-centered them (ahem maybe like in snow hehe) they were just unstoppable. I really wish they'd go back to that. oh and also get rid of so much of that low hanging plastic. anyways great write up i've been wanting to do antero for a while now and i think your pics may have me convinced to do it this tues. :thunb:

oh yeah BTW that was me up in the "crows nest" it was a great vantage point to get vid from the early (read easy) first part of black bear pass.

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 11:19 AM
Smash couple years ago my parents tried tincup in their '00 outback, and while it didn't get as steep it was just rocky enough that they couldn't go slow enough without a low range and/or burning up the clutch. I really dont understand why subaru doesn't offer a low range anymore. We had two '85 wagons with that low range and unless you high-centered them (ahem maybe like in snow hehe) they were just unstoppable. I really wish they'd go back to that. oh and also get rid of so much of that low hanging plastic. anyways great write up i've been wanting to do antero for a while now and i think your pics may have me convinced to do it this tues. :thunb:

oh yeah BTW that was me up in the "crows nest" it was a great vantage point to get vid from the early (read easy) first part of black bear pass.

Man I wanna go to Antero with you....darn this work hahaha! :lol: Maybe a quick after work run next wed???

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 11:19 AM
Yeah you should go do it, you won't have a single issue.

Subaru does still have low range transmissions. They are offered standard on the 4EAT (auto trans) in Australia.

I considered trying to get one imported/try to retrofit one from the 80's/put an auto trans into my car, but it's just not worth it.

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 11:21 AM
Yeah you should go do it, you won't have a single issue.

Subaru does still have low range transmissions. They are offered standard on the 4EAT (auto trans) in Australia.

I considered trying to get one imported/try to retrofit one from the 80's/put an auto trans into my car, but it's just not worth it.

Good news is... When you do get a rig with Low range it will be a whiole new world of off roading to you

4Runninfun
July 20th, 2009, 11:23 AM
Man I wanna go to Antero with you....darn this work hahaha! :lol: Maybe a quick after work run next wed???

i could do tues after work, but weds is just calling it to close too get back for work in the PM.

4Runninfun
July 20th, 2009, 11:24 AM
Yeah you should go do it, you won't have a single issue.

Subaru does still have low range transmissions. They are offered standard on the 4EAT (auto trans) in Australia.

I considered trying to get one imported/try to retrofit one from the 80's/put an auto trans into my car, but it's just not worth it.

once again we get screwed here in the US with the choice of vehicles offered. I swear i'm temped to move to AUS just to get a sweet hilux, or defender. and then go play around in the outback for a couple months.

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 11:29 AM
i could do tues after work, but weds is just calling it to close too get back for work in the PM.

I'll let you know by Sunday man

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 11:33 AM
Defender 90 FTW! I've been in love with those since I was about 10. Gotta like the hilux's though too. Aussies have all the fun, I even had to get my strut lift from them. I have to say if my Foz had low range I don't think I'd want to get rid of it.

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 11:42 AM
Defender 90 FTW! I've been in love with those since I was about 10. Gotta like the hilux's though too. Aussies have all the fun, I even had to get my strut lift from them. I have to say if my Foz had low range I don't think I'd want to get rid of it.

There is always a way.. LOL :lol:

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 12:03 PM
Oh yeah. There's a way. It definitely can be done. But for the price it isn't worth it, would rather have a "real" offroad vehicle.

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 12:16 PM
Oh yeah. There's a way. It definitely can be done. But for the price it isn't worth it, would rather have a "real" offroad vehicle.

What's stopping you? (Don't let reality be a factor hahaha :lol: )

4Runninfun
July 20th, 2009, 12:19 PM
Defender 90 FTW! I've been in love with those since I was about 10. Gotta like the hilux's though too. Aussies have all the fun, I even had to get my strut lift from them. I have to say if my Foz had low range I don't think I'd want to get rid of it.

personally i'm more partial to the 110 or 130 :)

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 12:22 PM
personally i'm more partial to the 110 or 130 :)

Dormmobile! :thunb:

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 12:24 PM
Uh. Yeah reality. Little thing called cash. I'm no wrench either, so that limits me a bit.

The 110 would definitely be more useful, but the 90 pulls on my heartstrings.

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 01:03 PM
Ok video time, sorry that took so long!

Haha, Karla's love of water is just priceless!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mCH6QQ0eto

I was gonna edit this down and cut out the end but she's cracking me up....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQcMHFVG2M

The hill that defeated us:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvQUO0bmqyE

Smash
July 20th, 2009, 01:04 PM
These videos that Karla took really sum up how much fun she was having in the roof basket! We were just tooling around Fourmile, nice and easy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw0CvZy5Eow


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxbMWEqLVBA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGNEaW4bxkQ

Yep. Ham. Man I'm in love with this woman!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gPS9j-cN-I


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZo42AKN8Ho

Funrover
July 20th, 2009, 01:47 PM
Some good vids there

4Runner3Wheeler
July 20th, 2009, 03:37 PM
Turnkey rigs are available very reasonably. If you ever have 4Runner questions, I'll gladly share my little bit of knowledge with you. I know you're upset about not completing the trail, but it still looks like you had a full day of fun. Nice photos and beautiful weather. It looks like you have a fun co-pilot as well.


Yeah you should go do it, you won't have a single issue.

Subaru does still have low range transmissions. They are offered standard on the 4EAT (auto trans) in Australia.

I considered trying to get one imported/try to retrofit one from the 80's/put an auto trans into my car, but it's just not worth it.

Pathrat
July 20th, 2009, 09:58 PM
Great pictures! This looks like another trail to put on my list.

and I do loves me a fully outfitted Defender! My boss is in Lebanon right now visiting family and he emailed that he is drooling all over the 90s and 110s over there

Smash
July 22nd, 2009, 07:55 AM
Turnkey rigs are available very reasonably. If you ever have 4Runner questions, I'll gladly share my little bit of knowledge with you. I know you're upset about not completing the trail, but it still looks like you had a full day of fun. Nice photos and beautiful weather. It looks like you have a fun co-pilot as well.


Thanks buddy! Was just frustrating as it's a constant thing I have to fight with that makes the easiest of trails impassible if they are steep. Calmed down now. lol.

Smash
July 24th, 2009, 10:15 AM
Yeah I need flat!! That's something I can do! LOL.