CPR CLASSES

[Pathrat]

Yes, I know, the Red Cross has CPR classes but I found another one in my neighborhood.

Taken from The Arvada Report, Aug/Sept 2009

"The Arvada Fire Protection District will now offer quarterly CPR classes (with 2 year certification). The first class will be held on Saturday, August 29. The four hour class will be held at the Arvada Fire Training Center 6651 Indiana Street, beginning at 8:00am... All classes must have seven students to begin and wil be limited to 20 students, first come first served. The cost for the course is $20."
303-424-3012 (public education office)

If I am not on the Stockers Run, I will be here, or at least take this class next quarter.

[Medic-5150]

Everyone take it. CPR is incredibly easy!!!! Especially now that they've changed it. It's the same for infants and adults. I believe civilians (non professionals) no longer have to even provide breaths so everyone take it there's no harm :)

[WINKY]

i do need to update my skillz

[Funrover]

Did mine not to long ago for a requirement at work... Seems the rules change every 3 years on CPR for the rythem used

[Brody]

Mine is out of date, but I used to teach it. I had an Advanced First Aid Instructors license for a number of years.

I'll pass on the spending of the $20 as I can use it for other stuff, but would highly recommend people who aren't familiar with CPR to take this. You may very well save a life! I know I have more than once...

Thanks for the heads up on the Arvada program, Stephanie!

[1freaky1]

I have to do mine yearly thru work. and that is coming up here soon.

[Pathrat]

I have to do mine yearly thru work. and that is coming up here soon.

I wish they would provide this class for me at work, but I guess they don't see the point for me :rolleyes:

[Medic-5150]

Training AEDs are annoying, just as a heads up for those who are going to take the course

[Brody]

I wish they would provide this class for me at work, but I guess they don't see the point for me :rolleyes:

Gee, why not? You certainly have a bunch of "Annies" to work with. Might look a little strange, someone walks in on you...what would you call that, anyway? Necro???:lol:

[Pathrat]

Gee, why not? You certainly have a bunch of "Annies" to work with. Might look a little strange, someone walks in on you...what would you call that, anyway? Necro???:lol:

They just aren't pliable enough. You can't really see the chest rise. :D

[Medic-5150]

They just aren't pliable enough. You can't really see the chest rise. :D

Don't have too anymore lol. Rescue breaths aren't part of civilian CPR anymore, it's just compressions as far as I know

[WINKY]

if the airway isnt restricted doesnt the act of compression for heart draw in fresh air and evacuate used air (to an extent)? it would make sense as your really putting a good force on the chest cavity.. is this the thought behind no breaths needed?

[Medic-5150]

if the airway isnt restricted doesnt the act of compression for heart draw in fresh air and evacuate used air (to an extent)? it would make sense as your really putting a good force on the chest cavity.. is this the thought behind no breaths needed?


Yea, the chineese realized it. If the patient is unconscious compressions are used to dislodge anyways. Heimlich is only used if they're conscious. Healthcare professionals still do rescue breaths, but it's no longer "required"

[Funrover]

Training AEDs are annoying, just as a heads up for those who are going to take the course

yeah I broke the fake chest pieces on one of mine in class... Whoops... But better to have broken ribs then die!

[Medic-5150]

If you're not breaking ribs, you're not pushing hard enough. That's just the dummy though, the AED is what delivers the shock. They talk to you in the most annoying voice ever. I think it's fairly new training for civilians to know how to use them. They're starting to pop up in places, like malls, some stores have them. Not real common yet though

[Funrover]

If you're not breaking ribs, you're not pushing hard enough. That's just the dummy though, the AED is what delivers the shock. They talk to you in the most annoying voice ever. I think it's fairly new training for civilians to know how to use them. They're starting to pop up in places, like malls, some stores have them. Not real common yet though

TRUE TRUE..... and yes the voice is annoying.. but it seemed to really help a few people I was with!

[Medic-5150]

They're very helpful, but it gets old and annoying very quickly. CPR is only fun when you're a medic. Then you get to push all the drugs and stuff, I got to do it once...on a dummy. I'm not "certified" to do it so I can't normally do it but my instructors let me in class lol

[Chris]

How often is CPR successful? Just curious if there are reliable numbers.

[Medic-5150]

CPR itself does not save lives. Without an AED the patient is dead. All CPR is doing is circulating blood with some oxygen in it to slow down the "dying" process. IF you're doing CPR the patient is already dead (if the patient has died from bleeding, CPR is pointless, don't do it. They're dead, and nothing's going to bring them back. As far as shocking a patient with an AED, it depends on the reason their heart stopped, how long ago it was, and the condition the body is in, how old the patient is, etc. I would say in patients who are in cardiac arrest, it's pretty successful. COntrary to what the medical shows show on TV, if the patient has "flat lined" You can't shock them. They need to be in Asystole, Ventricular Fibrilation, or Ventricular Tachychardia in order to shock and have it work. They're three heart rhythms. Asystole is the wavy one one with no defined heart beat, the others just look like chaos on the monitor.

A few years ago there was a case of a younger girl who had fallen through the ice and drowned. She wasn't pulled out until about 45 minutes later. However, because she was young and chilled, when she was shocked she came back to life. Like I said there's a lot of factors that effect it's effectiveness. the general rule of thumb is if it's been 10 minutes, they're probably not coming back. Those first 10 minutes are critical, and the sooner the AED is on and shocking, the higher the chances of success. Sorry for kind of a vague answer, I don't have any statistics. There may be some on the web somewhere. I guess it's kinda like how many miles can you put on an engine before it breaks? Who knows, depends on way too many things to make an accurate prediction. Hopefully something I said helped....

[Chris]

Just asked because I was remembering talking about it with my CPR class instructor (firefighter) who said she never saved anyone using it.