77' F150 Overhaul

[Fordguy77]

Next weekend i will be starting a serious overhaul on my 77 pickup. Plans include

-C6 to a NP 435 swap

-Built 400
Bored .030 Over
Decked
All the goodies more or less

1. CHI Closed Chamber 2v Heads
-ported and polished to match intake manifold gasket, and
-3 angle valve job

2. Weiand 8010 Intake Manifold
- ported top match intake gasket

3. Headman headers
- 2.5" Exhaust though out
-Thrush Glass Packs

4. R/V Style Cam

5. 670cfm Holley Truck Avenger

6. Ignition System Up Grade
-still deciding between mallory and msd

And Some basic body work
-Whole new driver side bed panel, got taken out by a semi retread flying off a truck.
- Passenger bed side, whole panel, Friend backed a bronco into it
- New driver side door, Friend jacked it all up

Custom Fab
- Sliders
- Front and Rear Bumper
- Dash Panel For CB and some extra gauges

Interior
- New Carpet
- Additional Dash Panel
- A Cobra 29 WX NW ST "Classic" CB Radio
- Redoing the Bench Seat

Any comments or suggestions are more than welcome

[Medic-5150]

Your friends are bad drivers....Sounds like it will be a nice truck when you're done :)

[Fordguy77]

Your friends are bad drivers....Sounds like it will be a nice truck when you're done :)
I totally agree, sad thing is it was the same friend twice. He replaced my door, but his replacement sucks, and he refused to help pay for any repairs, so needless to say hes on the **** list

[Funrover]

Have fun and take pics along the way!

[Brody]

Sounds really close to what I did with the engine on the Ford I had. I have only one suggestion, though:

When you do the dual exhausts, make sure that you do a cross over pipe as close to the engine as you can get it.

[Mporter]

lookin forward to this one.

[Fordguy77]

Cross over?
Like run an X-pipe?

[Fordguy77]

Me too i am stroked!!!!

[KnuckleHead]

Yeah make sure to take pics as you go along and post them up.... sounds like its going to be sweet....
And never let your friend anywhere near your truck...

[Fordguy77]

Yeah make sure to take pics as you go along and post them up.... sounds like its going to be sweet....
And never let your friend anywhere near your truck...

Yeah, i'll start taking pics Saturday when i go to pull the motor, and yeah, hes not even allowed in the same 10 miles of my cars since those incidents.

[Fordguy77]

I got started on the overhaul this weekend. all that is left in holding the motor is the motor mounts. i will put up some pics when my :princess: sends them to me

[Fordguy77]

So i had work last saturday and sunday. And i was hoping to catch up on my build. But i have just been informed i am working Friday Saturday and Sunday again this weekend. I had all the free time in the world, and all i did was sit there and do research and figure out my parts and where i was getting my block done at and such. Then it comes time to put the plan into action, and i've been stuck at work. this project is off to a great start....:erm:

[Rob]

Yes, but more work equals more money equals more toys for your truck. :thunb:

[Brody]

More work means groceries and being able to pay the mortage.......

[Fordguy77]

More work means groceries and being able to pay the mortage.......

Very true, and i am saving up for a house of my own at the moment so u can get out of my parents place. Granted my dad said i can live here until i complete my apprenticeship at work in 2012. So most bills arent a big concern, but saving for the day i move is. But i am also trying to get my trucks done before i move. so the likely hood of being able to keep them is higher

[Rob]

More work means groceries and being able to pay the mortage.......


Very true, and i am saving up for a house of my own at the moment so u can get out of my parents place. Granted my dad said i can live here until i complete my apprenticeship at work in 2012. So most bills arent a big concern, but saving for the day i move is. But i am also trying to get my trucks done before i move. so the likely hood of being able to keep them is higher

Oh, you guys are so practical. :)

[Brody]

Granted my dad said i can live here until i complete my apprenticeship at work in 2012.

I forgot that some people still had that option and actually get along well enough with their parents to live there for a bit. I got along so famously with mine that I left home at 16 and didn't talk to either of them for about 6 years. And by that time I wasn't even living in the same state as they were. I managed to finish my senior year of high school living with a couple of other guys. I was the only guy not living at home in the whole school and the bane of every parent that had a daughter or two. It was party central at my house 24/7and I somehow managed to maintain a GPA of 3.8...go figure..I guess I didn't need too much sleep back then..

Nice that you have this option. Make the best of it.

[Fordguy77]

My :princess: has finally saved up some money to start her first project. Its a 1988 Bronco II we picked up a while back for a case of beer. Figured thats not to bad of a deal. However because she has finally saved up some money to start her project, my 77 is getting put on the back burner. Which kinda sucks, but it is down for more extensive work than we are going to put into the BII. So it only seems logical to start on this one first because it will be our main trial rig for a while. We picked up a well priced 92 exploder to use for a donor. The plans are to rebuild the 4.0l and upgrade the a4ld to handle the 4.0l upgrades and just for peace of mind. As well as swap the 8.8, and Dana 35 to the B2 As from everything i know they are much better than the 7.5 and Dana 28 that are under it now. It currently has a 4inch skyjacker lift, but was lifted with blocks, which i hope to take out and order the proper springs. We also picked up an 87 B2 in good shape to help with cosmetic and gadgets such as power windows and such and a new rear hatch as well as an extra a4ld. I will try and post some pics of the donor exploder later this week. But here are a few of the B2.
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs097.snc3/16435_1260766886013_1434926871_30754844_7200397_n. jpg
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[Rob]

Wow, look at the projects piling up. :)

How do you find someone to give you a Bronco for a case of beer? Was really expensive foreign beer? :fing:

When will it be ready for the trail?

[Chris]

I'll give you a case for the 40 Rob. :D

[Rob]

I'll give you a case for the 40 Rob. :D

I'd have to have a case already in me to take that offer! And you're not a SWB kind of a guy, anyway.

[KnuckleHead]

Looks like you have your hand full right now. And yes you are right.... the 8.8 and 35 are better.

[Mporter]

Hah Ill give him 2....oh wait, im underage, DARN!

[Fordguy77]

Wow, look at the projects piling up. :)

How do you find someone to give you a Bronco for a case of beer? Was really expensive foreign beer? :fing:

When will it be ready for the trail?

I am hoping to have it trail ready late feb early march. all depends on the income over the next week or so to be honest. And a timely lay off to get some work done would help as well. But its life and work is work.

[Fordguy77]

Looks like you have your hand full right now. And yes you are right.... the 8.8 and 35 are better.

Everytime i think i am getting ahead, something like this comes up. Its starting to not only seems my hands are full and my pockets are empty. But such is life

[Fordguy77]

Made the drive to Colorado springs tonight. damn snow storm. what should of been a 4 hour round trip to get the explorer turned into a 9 hour adventure. I am off to bed got work in the morning. will post pic of the donor and of the drive tomorrow when i get a chance.

[Fordguy77]

So yesterday i got to drive to Colorado Springs with my friend and the :princess: It was the only time the people we bought our parts explorer where free to hand over the keys title and all the fun stuff that goes with buying a car. The weather sucked as you all know. It turned what was supposed to be a 4 hour trip into a 9 hour trip. Saw a few wrecks, pushed a few cars out of traffic. And i was really impressed with my friends driving. Lack a better vehicle yesterday we chose his 2005 f150. Good news was he had a tow package, bad news, 2 wheel drive. It made the drive that much more fun. Overall there were a few close calls on the trip but only one that really got the pucker factor going. But in the end we got home safely and the explorer made the final 6 mile journey to my friends shop. Parked it at the :princess:'s house last night do to time and weather. He's a few pics of the parts car we picked up and from driving around. most pics didn't turn out well because they were taken with a cell phone.
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo32/03/c4/be31972bad6e__1262898027000.jpeg?tw=315&th=210&s=true
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[Fordguy77]

4.0L donor :)
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs222.snc3/20952_1314997401742_1434926871_30904629_3462338_n. jpg
Finally to the GF's house
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs202.snc3/20952_1313987416493_1434926871_30901328_5763100_n. jpg
My dana 35, and 8.8 are waiting for me :cool:
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[Funrover]

Always a fun adventure!

[Brody]

There is a lot of Ford information in the Make and Model links here on this site:

http://www.frontrange4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?1996-Ford-and-Ford-Bronco-Links

Use it and add to it if you have more information.

Can't wait to see the end result!

[Fordguy77]

Did a little moving around at the girlfriends house today. I have came to the conclusion that her parents either like me, or dont hate me near as much as i thought they did. They are tolerating my gfs and mine endeavor with this bronco II build better than expected. We have now stock piled and moved everything around to where we should be getting a good start on it this week, or next weekend. Heres a couple pics of the re arranging we did, and just a collection of the parts. Its turned into one of those projects where is taking 3 vehicles to make one nice one. Should be a wonderful build and adventure with the :princess:
From left to right
87 donor 92 donor 88 Project
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Climbing Around
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The 4.0L
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The 2.9 Thats Getting Replaced
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[Mporter]

That explorer looks like a minivan in the first 2 pics :lol:

[Fordguy77]

That explorer looks like a minivan in the first 2 pics :lol:
haha i could see that. Hows things going with all your stereo cb work?

[Mporter]

Good, i had the stereo in for a week or so just for listening purposes, it sounds great.

We got the CB back from cobra and works fine, but now i just gotta tune it, which is what im doing at Randy's tomarrow morning.

[Fordguy77]

Good, i had the stereo in for a week or so just for listening purposes, it sounds great.

We got the CB back from cobra and works fine, but now i just gotta tune it, which is what im doing at Randy's tomarrow morning.

Thats good to hear. So i figure since you been messing with that stuff so much you gotta be a master by now, and i am totally electing you to put my cb in :lmao:

[Mporter]

Haha, not really a master, just more of a frustrated kid trying to figure out why a radio won't work and then eventually calling the manufacturer and confusing them as well.

I can maybe help, but its not gonna be the best....randy or someone else that actually knows what they are doing would be better :)

[Fordguy77]

Haha, not really a master, just more of a frustrated kid trying to figure out why a radio won't work and then eventually calling the manufacturer and confusing them as well.

I can maybe help, but its not gonna be the best....randy or someone else that actually knows what they are doing would be better :)

Ha compared to me you gotta be a master. I am the same way man. I hate messing with electrical stuff on cars. It makes me real mad, and i am not to good at it. I chased a problem in my starting circuit in my 70 f100. I ended up replacing every component to the whole circuit and the volt regulator as well. turned out to be a bad ground. good news, dont gotta worry about a starting circuit for a while.:lmao:

[Fordguy77]

So i am starting officially this next weekend. I realized i should of been at home working on one of the rigs rather than being up at pole hole. Granted it was a blast and way more fun then being at home. I gave myself a march first deadline. which is going to be really hard to meet. Unless my lazy-ass friends actually decide to come help like they say they will. I've more or less am tearing apart 3 cars to make one. So i am going to have to log a lot of hours. hopefully the timing with work and everything will work out right because i really want to get out on the trails in one of my rigs. if anyone gets bored next weekend and wants to help it would be cool. Can't offer much more than some soda and pizza as a reward though.

[Brody]

Where is Arvada are you located?

[Fordguy77]

I'm off of 55th and Marshall. The BII and everything is at 26th and wads in lakewood

[Fordguy77]

This weekend has some serious plans in it already. Me and a friend of mine are going to attempt to pull all 3 motors and transmissions this weekend. as well as get the explorer stripped down saving the good parts to sell or keep, and the rest hauled off to storage next week. Weekend after that we are going to attempt to finish parting out the 87 bronco ii. A long weekend ahead, lil sleep, lots of pizza and soda, and the occasional cuss word. Sounds like its going to be a blast

[Rob]

A long weekend ahead, lil sleep, lots of pizza and soda, and the occasional cuss word. Sounds like its going to be a blast

Ahh, to be young and strong again. :rolleyes: Hope you get everything done on that to-do list.

[Fordguy77]

Ahh, to be young and strong again. :rolleyes: Hope you get everything done on that to-do list.

Are you sure its not to be young and stupid? haha the more i am thinking about this weekends task the more it scares me for taking on such a challenge.

[Rob]

Are you sure its not to be young and stupid? haha the more i am thinking about this weekends task the more it scares me for taking on such a challenge.

Stop thinking about it, then. :D You have a plan. Just get after it. It'll go well. By the way, I'd offer to help, if I was young and strong (or stupid). Now I'm just old and cranky.

[Fordguy77]

Stop thinking about it, then. You have a plan. Just get after it
I think i will take you advise. It just sounds to easy!!! I'll be sure to take lots of pics and to update you guys about the end results monday

[Mporter]

Good luck man....hope all goes well

[Fordguy77]

Thanks! i talked to the inlaws today and they are going to let me use the garage for the whole weekend. Which is a shock because normally they don't even let there kids work on stuff in there. So no more cold outside driveway. hello cold garage!!!

[transplant87]

hey fordboy i got an 80k propane heater if u want to use it , it will heat a 2 car garge well

[Fordguy77]

hey fordboy i got an 80k propane heater if u want to use it , it will heat a 2 car garge well

I might take you up on that. i can't seem to find mine, i know its around just can't remember where its been awhile since i have got to do in garage work. lol my one car garage from the 50's barely holds my dad and i's: hunting/camping/biking/tools and misc parts let alone a car. Thing is we have everything very well organized and stacked so we can cram the most amount of **** into it. down side is that sometimes stuff is crammed so good it disappears for months at a time.

[transplant87]

and my offer is still up to help u out

[Fordguy77]

and my offer is still up to help u out

Alright i'll be PMing ya

[Fordguy77]

So this weekend was an epic fail. No motors, or transmissions. Had a few friends that were supposed to show up and bring a compressor and such to help out with the plan of attack. No one showed. So Nothing got very far. Nothing wanted to come apart. It all was rather disappointing, but i guess i did ok for it just being me and the :princess: Most everything is broke lose now at least.
But this is what i did manage to get done.
What i started off with:
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs161.snc3/18855_270352073374_503218374_3278620_5520203_n.jpg
Where its at now
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs261.ash1/18855_270352198374_503218374_3278632_1553758_n.jpg
Exterior Pics
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs202.snc3/20952_1313987416493_1434926871_30901328_5763100_n. jpg
Where Its At Now
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs161.snc3/18855_270352233374_503218374_3278634_2221596_n.jpg
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs161.snc3/18855_270352238374_503218374_3278635_7622396_n.jpg

[Fordguy77]

Few More
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[Mporter]

Nice looking seats ya got there. :rolleyes: Sucks your friends ditched ya

[Fordguy77]

Yup the seats are in pretty decent shape. i am probably going to shampoo them and throw um in storage till i can find someone who will want um lol

[Mporter]

Don't tempt me, i'm looking at some corbeau's

[Fordguy77]

Sucks your friends ditched ya
Yes it really does suck! i kinda figured they would because they have become really unreliable since high school. Especially if it has anything to do with work. Which sucks because a few of them were gifted mechanics.

[Brody]

I have a very hard time when people say they are going to show up and don't show up or bother to call. It shows a real lack of respect and applies to everything. I had 'friends' that did this for climbing trips...plan for the trip, I'll be there, etc. and never showed. Most of the time I had my rope solo stuff with me, so I was able to climb anyway, but when I wanted to do a really hard climb, something I tone down a little rope soloing, it was a PITA. I simply stopped calling any of these folks to do things.

[Fordguy77]

I have a very hard time when people say they are going to show up and don't show up or bother to call. It shows a real lack of respect and applies to everything. I had 'friends' that did this for climbing trips...plan for the trip, I'll be there, etc. and never showed. Most of the time I had my rope solo stuff with me, so I was able to climb anyway, but when I wanted to do a really hard climb, something I tone down a little rope soloing, it was a PITA. I simply stopped calling any of these folks to do things.

To be totally honest, i have a hard time with the no call no shows as well. I hate how they say they will be there and then they don't show. If you honestly have no interest in helping just say so, wouldn't hurt my feelings. Or if something comes up and you can't make it, give me a call. But apparently my friends are above that. Sorry for the rant. But i think i am going to do the same as Brody here, and just quit calling those people.

[Fordguy77]

Managed to get some more work done. My friend managed to give me some help this weekend which made things a lot easier. Got the motor pulled, The transmission/transfer-case. As well as the 31 spline LSD 8.8, As well as the Dana 35. The red haired guy is my bud nick. I am still trying for a march 1st deadline, but it does not seem very likely at this point in time. Works been sucking up all my free time. But its till moving along so i have no complaints. I am still looking for the cord to my other camera for the rest of the pics
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[Fordguy77]

More Pics
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[Fordguy77]

It was along night, we were stupid enough to work an all nighter. Loading the Motor Into the Ranger At 8:00 AM
http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af230/racerboy7377/171.jpg?t=1265075355

[Brody]

You are really making some serious progress with this! Probably doesn't look like anywhere near enough from your end, but it does from this one!

[Fordguy77]

Some pictures from taking out the 8.8 and dana 35 the other weekend, and then some pics of the so called scarpers that wanted the body. Took 5 hours to get it to fit on that trailer, but its out of my life with money in my pocket so i don't care to much.
Dana 35
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs186.snc3/19352_1345945215418_1434926871_30981458_4975852_n. jpg
8.8
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs186.snc3/19352_1345945255419_1434926871_30981459_3955524_n. jpg
Wiring Harness all the way out
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs166.snc3/19352_1345945415423_1434926871_30981463_4335964_n. jpg
Squatting ranger
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[Fordguy77]

More Pics Of What we had to do for them damn so called scarpers, I was really pissed about it all, but i needed it gone.
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[Fordguy77]

More Pics
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[Fordguy77]

All In all, it took us 4 hours to cut apart the car into pieces to fit on the "SCRAPERS" trailer. You'll all get a kick out of this. This is what they called there "HUGE" flatbed.
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Oh and this is there flat tire they thought they could fill with fix a flat, and air. Its got like 9 nail holes in it, and was spraying foam everything the wheel made one full turn. I was so happy to see them leave.
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs186.snc3/19352_1345946295445_1434926871_30981485_7304486_n. jpg

[Hypoid]

Incredible!!! Was that the only response you had from craigslist?

[scout man]

that is rediculous. How can you even try to pick up a car body with that small of trailer, with one axle and tiny tires? I would have told them to go by some blades, they can borrow my saw and chop it up themselves, but they own it now and it needs to be out by dark. Looks like you sure did a number on that thing though. Kind of looks like fun actually. Looks like your making some great progress

[Brody]

Glad to see you have made so much progress. You should post the name of the scrappers that you used so that the rest of us can simply avoid them.

[Fordguy77]

Incredible!!! Was that the only response you had from craigslist?

It was not the only response i had. Some stuff came up last weekend and the people who were originally going to pick it up called and canceled. So i put the ad back up, and got a bunch of responses and no one was willing to do this on a late Saturday afternoon or Sunday except this group of people.

[Fordguy77]

that is rediculous. How can you even try to pick up a car body with that small of trailer, with one axle and tiny tires? I would have told them to go by some blades, they can borrow my saw and chop it up themselves, but they own it now and it needs to be out by dark. Looks like you sure did a number on that thing though. Kind of looks like fun actually. Looks like your making some great progress

Thats exactly what we thought. But we didn't have much choice because we needed that explorer out of the shop Sunday. The scrapers who came didn't even want to help us cut it apart. The only thing that kept us from teaching them the way things should be was we were able to vent our anger into cutting apart the explorer. It was pretty fun, probably would of been more fun if it wasn't under the gun type situation.

[Fordguy77]

Glad to see you have made so much progress. You should post the name of the scrappers that you used so that the rest of us can simply avoid them.

Will do. Yeah i am hoping it is enough, i am starting to realize that it might not be done by the end of this month, but i am trying so hard to get it done before the Big Annual Run.

[Fordguy77]

Just ordered the Chilton manuals. Hopefully going to start on pulling out the 2.9 harness and motor soon. As well as start rewiring the truck with the 4.0 harness.

[scout man]

your definitely motivated and make some good time on stuff. I'm going to have to call you next time I have some major overhauling to do.

[Fordguy77]

your definitely motivated and make some good time on stuff. I'm going to have to call you next time I have some major overhauling to do.
Anytime ya need some help just give me a shout, not sure if i will be any help or not, but i am willing to do whatever it takes. My main drive for my speed on this is its been to long since i have been wheeling in my own vehicle! Almost a Year now since my last run at slaughterhouse. That run took a toll on the 77 and my pocket, thats for sure.

[74fj40]

Keep up the good work brotha!

[Funrover]

I can't believe that they did that.. What were those "Scrappers" thinking... Man that stuff scares me great pics though

[Fordguy77]

Hopefully going to start wiring this weekend, but i have class saturday! damn school. and its my b-day sunday so who knows what is going to get done this weekend. Also going with an on-board air system, if anyone knows the loc of a 2.5g or 2x2g tank let me know, not much room on the B2 for anything bigger than those. Any suggestions such are welcome as always, thanks.

[Fordguy77]

I can't believe that they did that.. What were those "Scrappers" thinking... Man that stuff scares me great pics though

The great pics were all taken by the :princess: I have no idea what they were thinking. I wonder if they ever went back and picked up the trailer after the abandoned it.

[Fordguy77]

If i break down and buy a new tank, it would be like this one. Hoping to save some cash and get a used on though.
http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/images/Sun_Performance_2.5_Gallon_Air_Tank.jpg

[scout man]

Check out the spot we have been PMing about, I think you will probably find something that works. I would avoid buying a new tank, there are plenty of used ones out there, and the new ones certainly arent cheap

[Fordguy77]

Check out the spot we have been PMing about, I think you will probably find something that works. I would avoid buying a new tank, there are plenty of used ones out there, and the new ones certainly arent cheap

Will do, just throwing it out there for others input as well.

[Chris]

If i break down and buy a new tank, it would be like this one. Hoping to save some cash and get a used on though.
http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/images/Sun_Performance_2.5_Gallon_Air_Tank.jpg

PM Brody, he had a few a while ago that would probably work for you.

[Brody]

Yeah, don't waste money you can use for something better than an air tank. Check these guys out. They repair all sorts of tools and compressors and have a stack of tanks that they want to get rid of. You can get any one of a number of used air tanks ($5 worth of paint and it looks new) from them complete with switch, manifold and possibly fittings, for around $10. To me, spending big bucks for a new air tank would simply be a waste of money....

OBA Air Tank Source

I checked these guys out for Danny and got a good deal on a Rigid air tank set up. I got everything but the compressor itself: gauges, manifold, fittings, switch. The one I got for Danny cost me $10.

This company specializes in rebuilding air compressors and power tools of all makes.At the moment he has an overstock on used air tanks. Doug said to stop by and see what he has that you could use and to bring cash.

A Pro Tool
1950 West 13th Ave #2
Denver, CO 80204
303-623-3743

Douglas Saunders

Here is information on this forum that has a huge number of links for doing your own OBA:

http://www.frontrange4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?5054-On-Board-Air-Installation-Articles-and-Links

[Fordguy77]

Yeah, don't waste money you can use for something better than an air tank. Check these guys out. They repair all sorts of tools and compressors and have a stack of tanks that they want to get rid of. You can get any one of a number of used air tanks ($5 worth of paint and it looks new) from them complete with switch, manifold and possibly fittings, for around $10. To me, spending big bucks for a new air tank would simply be a waste of money....

OBA Air Tank Source

I checked these guys out for Danny and got a good deal on a Rigid air tank set up. I got everything but the compressor itself: gauges, manifold, fittings, switch. The one I got for Danny cost me $10.

This company specializes in rebuilding air compressors and power tools of all makes.At the moment he has an overstock on used air tanks. Doug said to stop by and see what he has that you could use and to bring cash.

A Pro Tool
1950 West 13th Ave #2
Denver, CO 80204
303-623-3743

Douglas Saunders

Here is information on this forum that has a huge number of links for doing your own OBA:

http://www.frontrange4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?5054-On-Board-Air-Installation-Articles-and-Links


Thanks for the info. Sounds like the place to go after hearing about it from you and Scoutman

[Fordguy77]

The 8.8 Simple Swap kit arrived today from RuffStuff Specialties! Still waiting on some more parts. But this will be a good start for the up coming free time i hope to have.

[scout man]

Any chance you need or want a new radiator for the B2 you have? I beleive I have one and could give you a good price if your interested.

[Fordguy77]

Any chance you need or want a new radiator for the B2 you have? I beleive I have one and could give you a good price if your interested.
I'll have to do some checking to see if i can use it on the project b2 or not as i am switching motors and such. but if not i might pick it up as a spare for the 87 dd

[scout man]

When I bought the stuff the guy had told me it went to a bronco 2. Having done more research, I beleive it fits an 80-86 ford pickup or bronco with the 300 or 302 6 cylinder engine. Not sure if this works for you or not, but if so let me know and we can figure out a price that works for both of us. Here is a link to it. No pressure, just thought I would bring it to your attention.

http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/1607571817.html

[Fordguy77]

I am starting to realize the more i look at the 2 wiring diagrams i need to use to wire up the new system, the less i understand what i need to do to get everything to work the way its supposed to. I have found some information out there on the net about, but still does not give me the confidence to do this alone. Is anyone experienced with this willing to come help me out? Or does anyone know a shop that wouldnt charge an arm and a leg for all of this? any info is greatly appreciated.

[Brody]

Contact sunk. He just posted up about doing vehicle wiring work and is probably going to help me with my piggyback ECU wiring.I was able to do the 3.4L conversion in my Yota, but there was a lot of information available and I had some expert advice from ORS.I also had only 8 wires that I had to babysit, so there wasn't too much head scratching going on.Shop costs are going to run about $100 per hour no matter whose shop you take it to and they aren't going to able to do more than give you a ball park estimate. My guess if you wanted to get an idea of shop time, would be in the neighborhood of 6 hours...plusI'll do some digging...

[Brody]

Cross over?
Like run an X-pipe?

Yeah...like an X pipe...An simple pipe connecting the duals also works in an H configuration. It helps to balance the exhaust pressure between the two sides of the engine.

[Brody]

Here are some links I found for you on doing the 4.0L swap. Hopefully some of them will have good information on the electrical schematics. I wasn't able to look through them for you to find out as I have some other stuff I am trying to do today. Please copy and paste the links into the Ford Make and Model section if you find something good.

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/4L_Conversion.html

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/4L_Conversion2.htm

http://www.broncoii4x4.com/4.0L-swap/4.0L-swap.php

Information thread:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/187023-4-0l-sohc-v6-engine-swap.html

Radiator swap link:

http://www.mre-books.com/ranger/cooling.html

PATs information:

The biggest problem you will have will be with the PATS, passive anti-thief system. The PCM needs to get a PATS command "OK" before it will actually go to normal operational mode. SO, if you have a donor vehicle, get the PATS module, wiring, the key transponder, and the keys!

Ford electrical wiring diagrams:

http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/4599665-larry-larson

Hope these help. If they don't, post up exactly what you are looking for and I will look some more.

[transplant87]

the 302 is a small block V8

[Brody]

Gee, no kiddin'? I put one in a 1980 Yota I had....never even counted the cylinders, I guess. Fancy that. Thanks a lot for enlightening us all...

All the links I posted were for the conversion that was mentioned as far as I know, not anything to do with a 302.

If you have information he can use, why don't you simply post something helpful?

[transplant87]

well nothing i say would be helpfull, the only thing im good 4 is labor

[scout man]

If you have information he can use, why don't you simply post something helpful?

I think his 302 comment was directed at me, about the radiator. I was just going off what the box says, which is 300 or 302 6 cylinders... I dont know any better or how that applies in the ford engine world.

[Brody]

I think his 302 comment was directed at me, about the radiator. I was just going off what the box says, which is 300 or 302 6 cylinders... I dont know any better or how that applies in the ford engine world.

Huh....guess that's why there is a 'reply with quote' thing to keep things organized...The radiator link that I posted dealt with the bigger radiator swap, I think. I believe the 300ci was the Ford inline 6 which had the same reputation as the Jeep 258 inline 6...strong, durable, runs forever. I think that I have had a couple of those in the past as that is what Ford ran in the low end Falcon, Econoline vans, and about anything else they wanted a 6 in before they did the V6. Makes sense that a radiator designed for the 300 inline 6 and the smaller 302 V8 would cross over as they are only cooling 2 more cis...

Woke up more irritable than usual this morning....Oh well....

Cooling is a big issue for any engine swap, too. I ended up running a huge Griffin after market in the Yota after doing the 302 swap in that back in the mid 80s.

FYI...there are guys doing the 4.0LV6 swaps into IH Scouts...I didn't know this, but in looking for some of the electrical information, there were 3-4 links I spotted for this..Interesting..

[scout man]

FYI...there are guys doing the 4.0LV6 swaps into IH Scouts...I didn't know this, but in looking for some of the electrical inforamtion, there were 3-4 links I spotted for this..Interesting..

yea, I dont know why I would step down from a 345 v8 to a 4.0 v6 though. Sounds like a lot of work for a smaller engine... yes its more modern and all that, but if I wanted modern I probably wouldnt have bought a scout! :lmao:

[Brody]

X2...that big 345 is a good engine and the Scouts aren't light. Post I started to read said that the smaller 6 pushed the Scout down the road just fine...I like big engines and can't see the reasoning behind the V6 conversion...you are just making the 6 banger work harder...

[Fordguy77]

Contact sunk. He just posted up about doing vehicle wiring work and is probably going to help me with my piggyback ECU wiring.I was able to do the 3.4L conversion in my Yota, but there was a lot of information available and I had some expert advice from ORS.I also had only 8 wires that I had to babysit, so there wasn't too much head scratching going on.Shop costs are going to run about $100 per hour no matter whose shop you take it to and they aren't going to able to do more than give you a ball park estimate. My guess if you wanted to get an idea of shop time, would be in the neighborhood of 6 hours...plusI'll do some digging...

Thanks Pete, i just PM'd him, from the sounds of it i would be better off avoiding a shop if i want to keep my wallet a little happier.

[Fordguy77]

Huh....guess that's why there is a 'reply with quote' thing to keep things organized...The radiator link that I posted dealt with the bigger radiator swap, I think. I believe the 300ci was the Ford inline 6 which had the same reputation as the Jeep 258 inline 6...strong, durable, runs forever. I think that I have had a couple of those in the past as that is what Ford ran in the low end Falcon, Econoline vans, and about anything else they wanted a 6 in before they did the V6. Makes sense that a radiator designed for the 300 inline 6 and the smaller 302 V8 would cross over as they are only cooling 2 more cis...

Woke up more irritable than usual this morning....Oh well....

Cooling is a big issue for any engine swap, too. I ended up running a huge Griffin after market in the Yota after doing the 302 swap in that back in the mid 80s.

FYI...there are guys doing the 4.0LV6 swaps into IH Scouts...I didn't know this, but in looking for some of the electrical information, there were 3-4 links I spotted for this..Interesting..

Yup the ford 300 I6 is a workhorse of a motor. They run great, forever, and really easy to work on. the only real complaint i have ever heard of with the 300 I6 is that the power band is all geared towards torque, and no matter how you build them, you can't get the HP up that high. Had one in 1994 F150, Damn thing would climb a tree, but it wouldn't get me anywhere fast.

[Fordguy77]

Here are some links I found for you on doing the 4.0L swap. Hopefully some of them will have good information on the electrical schematics. I wasn't able to look through them for you to find out as I have some other stuff I am trying to do today. Please copy and paste the links into the Ford Make and Model section if you find something good.

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/4L_Conversion.html

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/4L_Conversion2.htm

http://www.broncoii4x4.com/4.0L-swap/4.0L-swap.php

Information thread:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/187023-4-0l-sohc-v6-engine-swap.html

Radiator swap link:

http://www.mre-books.com/ranger/cooling.html

PATs information:

The biggest problem you will have will be with the PATS, passive anti-thief system. The PCM needs to get a PATS command "OK" before it will actually go to normal operational mode. SO, if you have a donor vehicle, get the PATS module, wiring, the key transponder, and the keys!

Ford electrical wiring diagrams:

http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/4599665-larry-larson

Hope these help. If they don't, post up exactly what you are looking for and I will look some more.

Thanks for the link Pete! I had only seen a few! Thanks for all your digging.

[Fordguy77]

I am going down to talk to the guys at Arvada Auto Tech tomorrow, and see what they can do for me as far as a rebuild for the 4.0. Hopefully its better than other quotes i have been getting. I'd do it myself, just don't have the time.

[Fordguy77]

Went down to arvada auto tech today after work. They told me to go to a place called area auto, but because of work i am not sure when i am going to have time to get a hold of them or the motor down there. The project looks like its getting pushed into mid to late April as far as being back on the road, well in this case for the first time.

[Brody]

No promises as my friend and neighbor Dale is somewhat of a flake, but I can ask him if he is interested. He has been building motors and working on cars for 25 years or so. I'll probably see him this weekend. He lives right around the corner from me on 61st. I need to pin him down about doing gears for people on the forum, too...I'll PM you when I have some luck. Got another couple of folks I'll see in the next few days that I can ask, too.

[Fordguy77]

No promises as my friend and neighbor Dale is somewhat of a flake, but I can ask him if he is interested. He has been building motors and working on cars for 25 years or so. I'll probably see him this weekend. He lives right around the corner from me on 61st. I need to pin him down about doing gears for people on the forum, too...I'll PM you when I have some luck. Got another couple of folks I'll see in the next few days that I can ask, too.

Sounds good, i am gonna try to give them a call tomorrow, and just see when they are open and such, i much prefer to do business in person. Scott said its the only place he lets do his work, and they would work on giving me a deal if i mentioned that he sent me to them. So hopefully it plays out right, and if not and i hear back from ya on that neighbor of yours great! And even less great, i have a feeling layoffs are coming in the nest 2 weeks, so i'll have all the time in the world to do it myself!!! Anyone interested in helping? I am new to these newer motors, and wouldn't mind someone there just to help me out and bullshit with for that extra confidence. Anyone who offers to help, be forewarned i am one of those guy who does everything down to the letter out of manuals, i take no short cuts and am very anal about it all. So if you can put up with that great!

[Brody]

That has got double overhead cams and a timing belt set up right? Not totally familiar with the 4.0L Ford, but it looks like the V6 3.4L I have in the Yota as far as basic set up. I have never ever messed with a double cam set up and have only done a few of the timing belt replacements on the newer V6s...

[Fordguy77]

That has got double overhead cams and a timing belt set up right? Not totally familiar with the 4.0L Ford, but it looks like the V6 3.4L I have in the Yota as far as basic set up. I have never ever messed with a double cam set up and have only done a few of the timing belt replacements on the newer V6s...
As far as i know its just a classic OHV set up with a single cam, not cool enough to be a DOHC. Real simple engine in reality. The part where i get nervous with rebuilds is when i start bolting the heads on, and checking the clearances for the rocker arms, and push roads and such. This will also be my first experience with hydro roller lifters, used to just regular hydros...

[Fordguy77]

Just did some checking online, looks like i can pick up a rebuild kit-minus cam, lifters, and head studs. for around $600

[Brody]

Finally got a chance to talk to Dale. He is too busy working to mess with either gears or engines...Oh well...at least I have an answer....

Got another couple of people to talk to yet...

[Fordguy77]

Finally got a chance to talk to Dale. He is too busy working to mess with either gears or engines...Oh well...at least I have an answer....

Got another couple of people to talk to yet...
An answer is better than nothing, and i just got laid off today as expected, so at least now i will have some time to get some other stuff taken care of.

[scout man]

An answer is better than nothing, and i just got laid off today as expected, so at least now i will have some time to get some other stuff taken care of.
bummer. I know what thats like. Nice thing is you have all the time in the world to work on stuff, unfortunately you no longer have the money for it.

[Fordguy77]

bummer. I know what thats like. Nice thing is you have all the time in the world to work on stuff, unfortunately you no longer have the money for it.

yeah very true, i am pretty used to lay offs though, seeing as how i work industrial construction, i always end up gettin laid off every few months or so. But good news is turbine season is almost here, which means big fast money

[Fordguy77]

I just love it when things make so much sense.
I have gotten 4 quotes so far for engine shops to rebuild my engine.
The lowest rebuild quote i have gotten so far is 2300
i can buy a long block for 1800, and buy the new parts i need for upgrades for under the $500 dollar difference.
What the hell is wrong with this picture?

[Fordguy77]

even better i have found along block with a 10 year, 100,000 mile warranty for $1400!!! plus shipping of course

[Mporter]

What the hell is wrong with this picture?

Labor... 'nuff said

[Fordguy77]

Labor... 'nuff said

still... the rebuild kit for the motor for everything is only $800 so another $1400 in labor? with the motor pulled, and the heads off already? with the cam out as well, and no oil pan. seems kinda outrageous.

[Mporter]

Well with all that stuff already done...yeah

But you know body/auto shops...charging whatever they feel is "necessary"

[Fordguy77]

Well with all that stuff already done...yeah

But you know body/auto shops...charging whatever they feel is "necessary"

Yup, so i have decided to keep my one i pulled out of the ex. to rebuild myself on a future date. And just go ahead an order a new long block from that place in north Carolina i found offering a 5 year, 100,000 mile warranty on them. For $1400 seems like the best deal i can find, and i haven't been able to find anything but good feed back on them.

[Fordguy77]

I was bored the other weekend, and took the hood off the 87 and took it to bare metal, fixed the dents, and primmered it all up and threw it up on the 88.
Before
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs097.snc3/16435_1260766886013_1434926871_30754844_7200397_n. jpg
After
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs438.snc3/25200_377130903374_503218374_3625540_8180161_n.jpg

[Fordguy77]

The 77 is back on. And the B2 will be on hold for now. I just ordered a long block, built the way i wanted. Which takes care of 90% of whats wrong on it right now. As far as restoring anything goes, that can wait for a future date. And i just went and looked at the damage my friend did, and decided this bed is already messed up, so i shouldnt care, dents are part of wheeling after all.

[Fordguy77]

I have deiced to go ahead and get the 77 back on the trails. Sadly my friend pretty much wrecked my truck about a year ago, and here its sat ever since. I would like to fix it up one day, but for now i am just going to use it as a trail rig. ALL BODY DAMAGE, and the BLACK door, are results of my friend.
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs450.snc3/25779_392412168374_503218374_3734346_7282664_n.jpg
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs470.ash1/25779_392412163374_503218374_3734345_3414412_n.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs470.ash1/25779_392412178374_503218374_3734347_8316517_n.jpg
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs470.snc3/25779_392412188374_503218374_3734348_4779635_n.jpg

[Fordguy77]

Some more pics,
Junk in the bed
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs450.snc3/25779_392412193374_503218374_3734349_2810546_n.jpg
My 79
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs470.ash1/25779_392412208374_503218374_3734352_811239_n.jpg
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs470.ash1/25779_392412218374_503218374_3734354_5344923_n.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs470.ash1/25779_392412223374_503218374_3734355_7882772_n.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs470.snc3/25779_392412228374_503218374_3734356_1997334_n.jpg

[Fordguy77]

a few more
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs470.snc3/25779_392412238374_503218374_3734357_4094093_n.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs470.ash1/25779_392412248374_503218374_3734359_2287213_n.jpg
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs470.snc3/25779_392412258374_503218374_3734360_257977_n.jpg

[Fordguy77]

My POS 460. And if you look real closely you can see the frame for my 68 bronco.
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs470.snc3/25779_392417438374_503218374_3734419_5032763_n.jpg

More Friend Damage
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs470.ash1/25779_392417443374_503218374_3734420_4064773_n.jpg

[Fordguy77]

I'm finally back to work steadily, and looks like i will be for some time. So its time to spend the money while i have it, instead of when i don't! With the ranger being only 60hrs away from finished, i figured it was time to revive some of my last projects. I'm starting a frame off on my 1970 f100(2wd, my first truck) and figured i might as well get the 77 back on the road for some winter wheeling! I have made some new friends with the People who are run Area Automotive( Has done some great machine work for me so far) so they have been cutting me some great deals for my continued business. The engine(400cuin or 6.6L) has either a spun rod or main bearing. Luckily i have come into a complete rotation kit! So the rebuild should be fairly painless considering the age of the truck, its all motor, nothing hard about it. I found i can get a rebuilt NP435 for it for a fair price, and like this option better than swapping it out from my 79 bronco(parts rig i think, haven't decided what i should do with it, its rusted to all get out though). I'll have to find a pedal assembly but that shouldn't be to hard as well as get some other essential parts for the conversion. Since the transfer-case will be out for this conversion i was thinking about making my 205 a twin stick, but i dont see any real benefits for it right now. Can someone help me out on that? Also since my bed is trashed more or less i ordered some steel for a flatbed a long while ago, but ended up using it on our barn for the horses :mad: So i am back to needing to buy steel to convert for the flat bed. I think this might cause some issues with my aux tank and how they mounted it(was added after the truck was bought...now sure why they just didnt order the twin tank to start with...) but i will look more into that some time this weekend. The good news is the 77 has BRAND new 33x10.5R15 BFG KM's on it! That i still have yet to been able to test out. Also this truck might end up as Kateys DD, while we do some much needed repairs on the FJ60, the heater works GREAT, it had factory AC but the box was removed(i do have the boxes and condenser/ac compressor that will work on it somewhere around here) and i am not sure if i should just leave it or reinstall the system for kateys comfort. I am going to fix up the cab/front clip of the truck for her, as its not in bad shape but with a decent paint job could look a MILLION times Better. So i think that sums up the plans for this rig for the time being, but if anyone has suggestions i am more than willing to listen. Also if someone can explain the pros of the twin stick tcase :confused: to me itd be great.

[Rob]

With the ranger being only 60hrs away from finished, i figured it was time to revive some of my last projects.

Good to hear you're working steadily, but you crack me up, Chris. "Only 60 hours away from being finished..." What is that in "days"? :)

By the way, you haven't been on a trail in a while. Saturday? Cleanup run?

[Fordguy77]

60hrs in days now that is a hard conversion rob! With the amount I'm working lately, I only have free time on the weekends, so id say 3 weekends 4 at most.

[Fordguy77]

Steering Column/4 Spd Swap and Twin Stick Mod Begin this coming weekend. Pics To Come.

[Rob]

Thread closed: Go to the new build thread here: http://www.frontrange4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?14980-Revamped-77F150-Build-Thread