Project Ranger Dreams

[Zatticus]

IMHO they are,

Fourth gen Mustang AND camaros are just super weak looking.
I don't see them as muscle cars.


Some people like them,
I'm not one of them. They're not good for racing either, when you mod them enough to get them raceable, (madeup word) they don't hookup, they have no traction and too much torque.
: )



My dad had one, and I thought it was ugly.


I just wouldn't use one, ever.

[RockyMtnHigh]

Fourth gen Mustang AND camaros are just super weak looking.

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

I could have some fun with you, but this isn't one of those forums, so I will leave it alone.

I had an 02 and had no problems hooking it up.

[Zatticus]

Just using this as a reference if I ever decide to do a Supra Swap, listing known Prices, will lookup later.
Also, for those of you that know gear ratios, which of these two is better? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getrag_233_transmission


Engine : 2JZ-GTE Twin Turbo Supra Engine, or the JZA80(Only slight differences) : $2500-$3000
Transmission : V160 or V161 : $1700 - 2000
Rear Sump Oil Pan Relocation Kit : $50
3 Piece OD pulley : $250-$500
Water Pump : $50-$100
High Performance Radiator+Fan : $200-$300
High Performance Intercooler : $400
Cold Air Intake : $50-$300
Driveshaft from a Supra or Aristo : $?$
Custom Fabbed Motor Mounts $?$
Water Pressure, Oil Temp and Tach gauges : $200? (Stock ones won't work with this motor)
Bigger exhaust :
Intake Piping :
Hoses for Power Steering :
255lph Intank Fuel Pump with bigger Fuel lines :
Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator :
High Performance Drilled and Slotted Disc Brakes :
Rear Axle :
Front Axle :
High Performance Low Profile Tires :
Bigger Wheels
TOTAL COST : $5400 - $6850

Still looking up costs,

[Zatticus]

I had an 02 and had no problems hooking it up.

You just didn't have enough power then.
:thunb:

[SubaCool]

I dont do stangs
Careful on here, or you might get moderated :funrover:

[Zatticus]

:lmao:

[Chris]

You did get moderated, be careful young man. ;)

[Zatticus]

Not all the way!
:D

I'll fix it though.
ahah.

[Zatticus]

Delete this post.

[RockyMtnHigh]

You just didn't have enough power then.

Ahh, so before it had too much and now I had too little, very interesting! :lmao:

[Mporter]

I was suggesting buying a '99 stang for the engine....not to drive. F that

[Zatticus]

Ahh, so before it had too much and now I had too little, very interesting! :lmao:


Ahah, No, I meant when you give it enough power to be a decent race car, it never hooks up. If it does. You just don't have enough power. They don't have enough anyways.
Like my truck.

0-60 in 456894 years.
;)



I was suggesting buying a '99 stang for the engine....not to drive. F that

i know what you were saying.

The engines *** too.
;)

[Speedwagon]

I said a 5.0 mustang engine.

I know i could put an exploder in it,
but its not the same as a mustang engine, which has more horsepower.
/;

http://truckexplorer.com/1999-ford-explorer/5-0-h-o-in-mustang-vs-5-0-in-explorer-87830.html

[Zatticus]

Okay, So I guess the Explorer 5OH has, more HP and Torque, but is still slower.


I want to go fast.
D:

I want something that'll eat rice.
If you know what I mean.



I want to beat some ricers ass at the tracks.
;)

LOL. Tracks.

[Speedwagon]

If you are saying that an Exploder is slower than a Mustang, then you have to consider the weight and gearing of each vehicle. If the same vehicle is suddenly given more HP and torque, it is obviously going to be faster than before, all other factors the same.

[Zatticus]

I've seen videos and time slips of rangers with mustang and exploder engines, the way the exploder is built, it's slower.

That article said the Exploder had more HP after they redid it, from the original 5.0 explorer engine,


Mustang is still faster,
I thought they would be the same too, until I started looking it up. It really isn't the same.
/;

[RockyMtnHigh]

Ahah, No, I meant when you give it enough power to be a decent race car, it never hooks up. If it does. You just don't have enough power. They don't have enough anyways.

:lmao: This is almost entertaining. So if I did have enough power, I wouldn't hook up, but at the same time they just didn't have enough anyway, did I get that right?

I guess the 375HP I was getting wasn't race worthy.:frown:

[Zatticus]

Exactly.
;)



Ahah.

I've seen some that can race, like the saleens
Those are fast.


I just don't like 4th gen mustangs in anyway shape or form.
They're like flavored water. Theres no point, it shouldn't have been made, yet people still buy them and claim to like them.
Even though they're terrible.

[Fordguy77]

They're like flavored water. Theres no point, it shouldn't have been made, yet people still buy them and claim to like them.
Even though they're terrible.

Any 5.0L can be built anyway you want it. It doesn't come from where the block came from but were you take it too. That being said comparing a 5.0L in an explorer to a 5.0L in a mustang isnt fair at all. First off there are serious weight differences. Second there are different gearing situations for different goals. Third There are less drive train components in a Mustang than an Explorer. There is lost power through every component in your dirvetrain, the explorer having a T-case and the mustang not. If you took the explorer motor and put in a mustang, the explorer motor would out perform. A common mistake a lot of ricer type car builds make is thinking all they need to do is get that horsepower number up to go fast. But without a bottom end (TORQUE) you'll never get there. Besides Torque is far more useful, better acceleration and such.

As far as your statement about the 4th gen mustangs. The 4.6 "Stock" Verision that you would see running around in your GTs and such, Have 225Hp at the rear wheels. Which is the same as a stock 5.0L 3rd generation mustang. Now if you take it a step further and compare the 3rd gen 5.0l Cobra and the 4th gen 4.6 Cobra, the 5.0L puts out only 245hp, where as the 4.6 puts out 305hp.

As far as not hooking up, that can be from a couple of different things. Me personally i like being able to burn my tires, and have never had a problem with not hooking up. If you learn to drive it, with proper tire selection/ suspension set up you can get traction and hook up fine.

Now keep in mind, my first car was an 88 Mustang with a 5.0L(302) that i punched and stroked to 5.7(347cu in). The thing that really made that car so much faster than a stock 4th gen was the work i put into it. On top of the fact the 79-93 mustangs were the lightest mustangs ever produced. By a few hundred pounds meaning the same power pushing less weight made it go faster.

I'm by no means a huge fan of 4th gen, except the first 2 years (94-95) when it still had a 5.0L, but by no means is it not as good if not better than its predecessor, in several areas.

So i guess what i am saying over all is don't judge a book by its cover when it comes down to it. But actually read into and get the info before you judge it. The 4.6 Isn't without its flaws, but is still a good motor.

I was suggesting buying a '99 stang for the engine....not to drive. F that

The 4.6 swap is much more work than a 5.0L swap. The 4.6 V8's have a really tall deck height and are much more narrow, which all adds up to a lot more fab work. Also the after market support is great for the 4.6 but just ok in comparison to the market for 5.0L's.

[Fordguy77]

Also These are stock ratings and fair comparisons....
1999 Mustang GT 4.6
0-60 In 5.5 sec
1/4 Mile 14.1

1993 Cobra Mustang
0-60 in 5.9 Seconds
1/4 in 14.5

[RockyMtnHigh]

As far as not hooking up, that can be from a couple of different things. Me personally i like being able to burn my tires, and have never had a problem with not hooking up. If you learn to drive it, with proper tire selection/ suspension set up you can get traction and hook up fine.

And that's it in a nutshell, I had to consider the audience of the discussion though who thinks that stomping the skinny pedal wins races.

[Brody]

Hey Zach

You ever going to actually DO something with your Ranger? Just curious....as is most everyone else...What are we on now...post #500 or so?:D

Uhhhhh....I had a Lawn Boy lawnmower way back when that would turn about a 90 to 120 second quarter mile on stock rims. Does that count?

[Roostercruiser]

Uhhhhh....I had a Lawn Boy lawnmower way back when that would turn about a 90 to 120 second quarter mile on stock rims. Does that count?[/QUOTE]


thats faster than my old 54 chevy i had when i ran the highschool drags :lmao:

[Zatticus]

I should start lawnmower racing too.
:rolleyes:

[Brody]

Uhhhhh....I had a Lawn Boy lawnmower way back when that would turn about a 90 to 120 second quarter mile on stock rims. Does that count?


thats faster than my old 54 chevy i had when i ran the highschool drags :lmao:[/QUOTE]

I had about 10 acres to mow when I was growing up and Dad had gotten this riding lawnmower. All was good until yours truly started to run nitro methane in it an see how fast it would go. Hey...worked for my (stolen...yeah, I was a bad child...) go kart, so why not...Blew it up, surprise, surprise and promptly got back behind the push mower...

Every time I remember stuff like this, I realize why I never had kids...

[Zatticus]

This is more or less what my end result for my truck is. Different customization, obviously. But something similar. I like his.
http://www.minitruckinweb.com/features/ford/0810mt_1993_ford_ranger_splash/index.html

[scout man]

You gonna photoshop a girl in her underwear in front of yours so it looks cooler too?

[Aaron]

You gonna photoshop a girl in her underwear in front of yours so it looks cooler too?

Screw photoshop. I'll be your photographer though :D

[Mporter]

You gonna photoshop a girl in her underwear in front of yours so it looks cooler too?

Gawd that sure is painfully obvious

[Chris]

Gotta wonder about that pic, looks like he saw her hitching a ride, stopped 50 feet away and got out to take a look. :confused:

[Mporter]

That way he doesn't get into an awkward situation in 50 feet. ;)

[scout man]

Have to decide if she is attractive enough to pick up. No one wants an ugly chick in her undies.

[Zatticus]

hahahah.

I bet shes super ugly.
;)

[Chris]

Hey Zatticus, somewhere in this you asked about custom interior work. Thought I'd mention I just saw a friends '55 Chevy with a brand new interior today. Looks awesome and only cost 12K. ;)

[Zatticus]

Thats why Im gonna build it myself.

lol

[Zatticus]

I have almost 2k views on this thread! :eek:

http://www.sporttruck.com/techarticles/0807st_building_a_truck_bed_sub_enclosure/index.html
This is something else I'm going to do,
Always wanted the spray in bedliner.
; )
Its a two in one for me
:D

[Zatticus]

I got new Taillights from Sean, and put them on.
I've done something with my truck!

I will go get pics shortly.
:D

[Rob]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, Grasshopper.

[Zatticus]

: D

[Fordguy77]

Alright Zach i must be dreaming you did something??? nice wheres the pics? when you stopping by?

[Zatticus]

They look like ricer taillights in pictures.
D:
But they look pretty good in person. : )

But I'll upload them when I get home,


And I can come by tomorrow? If thats alright. : )

[1freaky1]

Hey Zach we forgot to go over those bucket seats while you was here.

[Zatticus]

Hey Zach we forgot to go over those bucket seats while you was here.

D:

Yeah, we did.
I completely forgot, even though that was the main reason I was there.
LOL.